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    HereWeGoAgain HereWeGoAgain is offline

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    The Business Post‏Verified account @sundaybusiness 12h12 hours ago

    Is the Sláintecare report aspirational - or a credible vision to save our ailing health service, asks @susmitchellSBP





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    Quote Originally Posted by Merovingian View Post
    This is a slow rolling disaster for the public hospitals....if their private income is decimated then services will need to be cut for all. For many of the major hospitals outside Dublin private income accounts for 20% of their revenue. I don't know where the money is going to come from. Consultants will drift into the private sector. Hey Presto!...you will have an underfunded, poorly staffed public system and a well staffed / funded private sector looking after the top 30% of the population. Everyone thinking this campaign by the Private Heath Insurers is to be welcomed, well be careful what you ask for. You think we have a two tier health service...you ain't seen nothing yet folks!
    If one looks at the waiting lists for hip and knee surgery one sees Cappagh Hospital- once a busy centre of excellence now working at half strength or less for reasons unknown. Those patients who would have provided it with extra income are forced into the private sector. No beds open - no theatres open - no income - no beds - an ever deepening cycle of disimproving services and in pain people.

    Much more money is being spent now - for what exactly?
    The former way of doing things when hospitals were fully staffed, fully bedded and able to treat every imaginable malady has been ditched ...for what exactly?

    There was a time when our mixed income public training hospitals were centres of excellence for rich and poor. They had few frills but lots of autonomy but now it seems they are being managed to death as the testing ground for every new wheeze of the perpetually desk bound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myrak View Post
    If one looks at the waiting lists for hip and knee surgery one sees Cappagh Hospital- once a busy centre of excellence now working at half strength or less for reasons unknown. Those patients who would have provided it with extra income are forced into the private sector. No beds open - no theatres open - no income - no beds - an ever deepening cycle of disimproving services and in pain people.

    Much more money is being spent now - for what exactly?
    The former way of doing things when hospitals were fully staffed, fully bedded and able to treat every imaginable malady has been ditched ...for what exactly?

    There was a time when our mixed income public training hospitals were centres of excellence for rich and poor. They had few frills but lots of autonomy but now it seems they are being managed to death as the testing ground for every new wheeze of the perpetually desk bound.
    Where are the private doctors going to put their private patients? Into terrible public hospitals? They will have to do their part in keeping up the quality of the public hospitals because they sure aren't going to build their own private hospitals out of their private income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    Where are the private doctors going to put their private patients? Into terrible public hospitals? They will have to do their part in keeping up the quality of the public hospitals because they sure aren't going to build their own private hospitals out of their private income.
    And soon to vanish off the scene - average private patients! More and more I hear of people who have paid health insurance for their families for years and years only to find the increased charges forced them to give up. Then as per Murphys Law illness strikes and the people who would have paid their way for treatment are unable to avail of it and join the waiting lists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myrak View Post
    And soon to vanish off the scene - average private patients! More and more I hear of people who have paid health insurance for their families for years and years only to find the increased charges forced them to give up. Then as per Murphys Law illness strikes and the people who would have paid their way for treatment are unable to avail of it and join the waiting lists.
    If you mean by an 'average private patient' the holder of an old style VHI B-scheme policy then you are correct these will disappear. This is because our autonomous hospitals were given the chance to rip off these 'average private patients' by charging them to lie on a trolley or attend a day-clinic at a rate that is 10 times that which would apply if they presented as a public patient.
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    Talking to a chap over the weekend.

    He had a 10 day stay in Mater last year.

    His healthcare provider was billed €10,000+

    Room wasn`t cleaned once during the stay.

    Food was barely edible.

    One day he got food and he didn`t even know what it was

    Two of you could stay in the Westbury for about 25 nights for that !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    Talking to a chap over the weekend.

    He had a 10 day stay in Mater last year.

    His healthcare provider was billed €10,000+

    Room wasn`t cleaned once during the stay.

    Food was barely edible.

    One day he got food and he didn`t even know what it was

    Two of you could stay in the Westbury for about 25 nights for that !!!
    I hope he complained.
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    Healthcare report gets lukewarm welcome from Simon Harris

    Less than 10 weeks into the 10 year plan....and it's already falling apart . Doesn't look like there was much of a consensus!
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    A record 8,154 on hospital trolleys - Independent.ie

    Record numbers on trolleys, very frightening considering the time of year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    A record 8,154 on hospital trolleys - Independent.ie

    Record numbers on trolleys, very frightening considering the time of year.
    Lets see how much is captured by the patients national experience survey!
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