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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    It's not even a pharmacist, it's some young wan who sells eyeshadow most of the day telling you not to take too many. Silly.
    I know. It all gets back to the pre-conscious belief that people need to have their hand held and their laces tied, are fundamentally incapable of making their own decisions, and that the rest of the world is somehow responsible for the consequences of private decisions. Of course, the other side of the coin is that every pointless patronizing law that is introduced can appear in bullet point form in some candidates list of "achievements" when it's election time.
    If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    Just ban everything and be done with it.

    Isn't that what the Codex Alimentarius is about- we sort of - unless of course rubber stamped by our Great (unaccountable) Masters from on high!!!




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    I wish to thank the government for yet again attempting to protect me from myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didimus View Post
    Addiction to codeine based drugs is becoming widespread. Many people do not read packaging and assume that because it's sold without prescription they don't need to.
    Try buying them over the counter in France, or many other EU countries.
    If people don't read the label, that's their own look out- it is not a matter for the state and I would suggest that it does not rank that highly when compared to our actual problems. Also, the simple reality is that the overwhelming majority of people who take pain killers do so for legitimate reasons and should not be inconvenienced just because 84 people have a self-control problem.
    If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seenitallb4 View Post
    If people don't read the label, that's their own look out- it is not a matter for the state and I would suggest that it does not rank that highly when compared to our actual problems. Also, the simple reality is that the overwhelming majority of people who take pain killers do so for legitimate reasons and should not be inconvenienced just because 84 people have a self-control problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borntorum View Post
    I wish to thank the government for yet again attempting to protect me from myself
    You're probably off your head on lemsips as we speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
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    You mad libertarian radical
    If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.

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    The sale of medicines is regulated by the state. Solpadeine et al could be made prescription only, as they are in other jurisdictions.
    Given their general usefulness as well as their extra associated risk it seems a reasonable compromise to allow them as otc accompanied by advice.

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    I posted this on another similar thread, but it is ppropriate and its a good laugh

    Scenario 1:

    Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

    1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, then goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

    2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.



    Scenario 2:

    Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

    1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

    2010 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.



    Scenario 3:

    Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

    1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

    2010 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.



    Scenario 4:

    Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

    1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

    2010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.



    Scenario 5:

    Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school..

    1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with a school buddy that has a headache also.

    2010 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.



    Scenario 6:

    Pedro fails high school English.

    1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

    2010 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU filesclass action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.



    Scenario 7:

    Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.

    1957 - Ants die.

    2010 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.



    Scenario 8:

    Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

    1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

    2010 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
    "No one rules if no one obeys" - Tao

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryson View Post
    Isn't that what the Codex Alimentarius is about- we sort of - unless of course rubber stamped by our Great (unaccountable) Masters from on high!!!




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    Is that the Happy clappy Yes Lisbon Side kids these days?!
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