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    If a leader becomes mentally incapacitated

    I have been watching a CNN programme on You Tube that mentioned that Calvin Coolidge suffered clinical depression for the later period of his presidency. The trigger was the death of his favourite, son, aged 16. Coolidge became withdrawn, sleeping 18 hours, cut himself off from friends and family, and was effectively unable to do his job.

    A number of US leaders have suffered mental problems in office. Nixon's staff became concerned at the President was suffering a depressive phrase towards the end and may not have been able to function. Ronald Reagan began showing preliminary signs of Alzheimers in his second term. Harold Wilson, another prominent sufferer of Alzheimers, also showed signs of it in his last year or two in office - his sudden resignation was thought by some aides to be linked to a realisation by him that something was wrong and he needed to bow out of public office before things got worse.

    Pope John Paul II also showed limited mental capacity at the end of his reign. The President, Mary McAleese, at an audience with him mentioned the Irish College, a favourite place of his for years in his days as a bishop and cardinal. To her surprise he looked a bit puzzled and asked where was that. An aide told him it was near the St John Lateran. He still looked puzzled and some there got the impression that he was no longer able to recognise the St John Lateran, his cathedral as pope and a place he had visited thousands of times in his lifetime.

    Pope Pius XII also showed some evidence of confusion at the end of his life. In one newsreal not shown in his lifetime (because of what it captured) but shown a couple of years ago on RAI, Pius was seen addressing a crowd at Castelgandolfo. He mentioned England and some English pilgrims cheered. They startled him and he suddenly looked completely confused as to where he was or what was happening. He began looking around him almost panicky, and then slipped into the traditional papal ritual of blessing people, but it was an odd sort of blessing, not aimed at those below his balcony, but to the left, to the right, even above him, while looking confused around him. The programme had showed Pius to be a highly theatrical and charismatic figure, who carefully crafted his image. That one image, years after most of his most striking images and close to his eventual death, was astonishingly different - he looked completely out-of-it.

    There is a suspected case in Ireland too. In 1976 the President of Ireland, Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh, resigned over an attack by a Defence minister. Historians who have read Ó Dálaigh's private papers have suspicions though that in the week or two before his resignation, and in its aftermath, he either suffered a nervous breakdown or was on the brink of it. His never easy-to-read handwriting became grotesque, and shrunk in size (his handwriting was previously bizarrely large) till it was tiny. A man with a famous linguistic skill (albeit with woeful spelling!) in the run-up to his resignation seemed unable to string a coherent sentence together in his papers, with bizarre half-sentences, weird paranoia, and delusions about himself, including starting to write about himself in the third person, something he never did before. It isn't known if he was seeing a doctor in those days, but the bizarre contents of his papers suggest he wasn't well mentally in the run-up to the resignation - he spent the weekend before the resignation writing a number of resignation letters, all on different topics, before finally deciding to resign on Donegan.

    Those old enough will remember also his strange behaviour when interviewed by an RTÉ journalist about his resignation. He stood with his arms criss-crossed over himself in an a very protective childlike manner - the nearest visual equivalent I can think of it is in the old pictures of people arrested in the 19th century and photographed by the police. They would have to stand that way to show off what their hands looked like in the pictures. I have never seen anyone but Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh in that pose ever do an interview anywhere.

    The issue raises an interesting point - what does a leader do, or do those around him do, if he or she shows signs of mental impairment? Coolridge's clinical depression could have been treated. So it wasn't something that would have necessitated his removal, just a temporary stepping back from the role. So while removal from office may be the only solution where the impairment is permanent and progressive (as with Reagan's alzheimers) what can be done if the impairment is temporary and treatable?

    Any thoughts or observations?
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    The Prime Minister of Norway, Kjell_Magne_Bondevik, took leave for depression in 1998 for depression and returned to work 3 and a half weeks later.
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    I guess the question is more problematic in countries that have executive presidencies.

    In a parliamentary system, there's a well-defined procedure for removing somebody, whether by provoking an election or replacing from within the leaders own party.

    For an executive presidency, you have to be very careful that whatever procedure you define is not open for abuse in cases where the leader is not actually unwell.

    Just to add to your list, looking back, I think that there's some indications of Margaret Thatcher's later illness at the end of her time in power.
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    What do you mean "if"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeGaulle 2.0 View Post
    The Prime Minister of Norway, Kjell_Magne_Bondevik, took leave for depression in 1998 for depression and returned to work 3 and a half weeks later.
    Thanks. I knew some European leader had taken medical leave but I couldn't remember who. Thanks for filling me in on the details.
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    ...and then there was Churchill's depression that continued to plague him on and off throughout the Second World War.
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    Very interesting post. I was just about to remark on our own political leaders but I won't. Its very sad and not a matter for joviality.

    I don't think that a mental illness in a leader of a Deomocratic country would be a matter of concern insofar as he/she would be surrounded by advisors and minders. Remember Reagan. He had Alzheimer's or something similiar. I mean its not like even the President of the USA can, on a fancy, press the "red button" and lead us into armageddon. Too many failsafes in place.

    If a leader cannot recognise that he/she has a problem, then I presume the minders take over, hide the symptoms as best they can and ensure that the masses are unaware of the problem until either the leader's term is up or he is forced to "resign" due to ill health.

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    *sigh*

    Another longwinded overblown post from Tommy taking us on what I can only presume he thinks is a flight of informative whimsy, rather than getting off the damn fence and having the cojones to just come right out and say what's on his mind without all this flowery faffing about.

    My patience wears thin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
    Very interesting post. I was just about to remark on our own political leaders but I won't. Its very sad and not a matter for joviality.

    I don't think that a mental illness in a leader of a Deomocratic country would be a matter of concern insofar as he/she would be surrounded by advisors and minders. Remember Reagan. He had Alzheimer's or something similiar. I mean its not like even the President of the USA can, on a fancy, press the "red button" and lead us into armageddon. Too many failsafes in place.

    If a leader cannot recognise that he/she has a problem, then I presume the minders take over, hide the symptoms as best they can and ensure that the masses are unaware of the problem until either the leader's term is up or he is forced to "resign" due to ill health.
    Fair points. I deliberately focused on deceased people because I do not want to touch on debating current leaders' issues. One of the cases I didn't mention but could have was that of Woodrow Wilson. He suffered a stroke in his second term and his controversial new wife became de-facto president, acting on his behalf in his administration. The American people had no idea that their president was effectively incapacitated and a woman he married (controversially) in office was the real president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    Those old enough will remember also his strange behaviour when interviewed by an RTÉ journalist about his resignation. He stood with his arms criss-crossed over himself in an a very protective childlike manner
    I think I remember seeing that pose being used by barristers a few times. It differs from a normal protective pose in that it limits the leakage from hand gestures. Given that he appeared to be under severe pressure at the time, it is not unusual to see him reverting to an almost automatic set of poses.

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