I agree. I think porn is grand for a couple to learn how to please each other more. It has its educational value if done tastefully and aesthetically. But where do you draw the line? The love scene in "Don't Look Now" is full on real penetration but done artistically. How does that compare to 21st century standards?Originally Posted by Illustro
"No one rules if no one obeys" - Tao
Right, so, um... we have all become porn consumers. How 'progressive', how enlightened and free society is! What a great victory for the left to revel in!
So if porn reduces instances of rape... does it follow that child porn reduces instances of child rape? And what about 'rape porn'? Or bestiality? Or any of the thousands of other niches and genres? What about porn addiction? Or how about the fact that the internet is literally saturated with porn... is that good? Good because we are free (and hey! a lot of porn is now literally 'free') and we have so much choice! But is this really about truly progressive liberal ideals, or is just how sex sells? What's liberal about that? Enlighten me.
How many porn 'actors' were sexually abused as children? 1 in a 1000? 1 in 10000? Or maybe 1 in 7? 1 in 2?
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Motivation
Porn stars rarely get started out of a free-willed love of sexual exhibitionism. Along with poverty and broken families, childhood abuse is very common.
Shelley said: 'Many actresses admit they've experienced sexual abuse, physical abuse, verbal abuse and neglect by parents. Some were raped by relatives and molested by neighbors. When we were little girls, we wanted to play with dollies and be mummies, not have big scary men get on top of us. So we were taught at a young age that sex made us valuable.'
Often they are teenage runaways picked up by pimps. They only escape one circle of abuse by entering another; they can't run from the pain so they go towards it. Fast forward a few years and they find themselves in a zombified state, drunk and drugged on a porn set as they re-live the same abuse they experienced growing up.
Shelley continues: 'The same horrible violations we experienced then, we relive through as we perform our tricks for you in front of the camera. And we hate every minute of it.'
Crissy Moran was a famous and 'successful' porn star. Did she enjoy it?
'I went through more heartbreak and became suicidal. I was taken to the hospital for panic attacks. I tried to overdose on xanax, strangle myself, and cut my wrists but not nearly deep enough. I was too scared of the pain. I prayed God would just take me away! I felt helpless. I even went to church for a few months but the guilt I felt was overwhelming that I would feel as if I were choking when I was at church. I had to choose and once again I chose to continue sinning. It was easier and I needed the money.
interesting article.
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This line from the article says it all for the likes of CYP and the other reprobates on here:
Ask a young guy when he last saw a drug addict; chances are he pleasured himself while looking at one that very morning.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos.
You forgot to add that "mere offense is no harm".
"We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep." - The Tempest, Act 4, Scene 1
That's lame, it could just as equally be applied to
last baseball game you watched,
the Oscars
last rock band you saw
take your pick
A higher proportion of any section of any entertainment industry personnel will have drug takers and addicts.
Proves nothing.
I have little doubt that a huge proportion of those involved in the porn industry take drugs but they are most likely to be coke or prescription drug abusers just like their peers in main stream entertainment.
No one will get onto a main stream porn film who is shooting up for the very obvious reason that no one will agree to have sex with them if they know they are.
The widely peddled notion that the porn industry relies almost exclusively on its staffing from desperate junkies who will do anything to get a few quid for a hit is total garbage.
It is also a sop for religious nut jobs to stick to their cosy view of the world that no one could possibly willingly offer to have sex for public entertainment unless they were somehow "damaged", coerced or misled.
As a contributory factor to sex crimes, I don't believe it's stretching it to suggest that on average it probably cools the jets of more potential perpetrators than it actually stokes up.
Just my view.
What is inarguable is that as a contributory factor to sex crimes, porn pales into insignificence beside the influence of centuries of the Church's repressive teachings, culminating in a build up of guilt, frustration and anger.
As a danger to society, the debate on who is the bigger danger to society: the guy who chooses to ******************** women on camera for his day job or the guy who at 18 swears he will keep is a dick in his pants for life as his living, well I think we all now know the winner!
Today boys are not admiring girls for their beauty because they are more focused on planning how to get a "blow job" from them no matter what it takes. To young boys, girls are no longer beautiful, they are just plain HOT! This is a shortened phrase from the older terms like "hot and horny" and "hot to trot." In the old days men would say women looked like a peach or looked like dolls. Now there is no respect given at all. Woman today are just seen as hot and ready.
Many years ago men would be seen as handsome with their suit and ties on. Now women refer to a guy as a "hunk" or "hot." Women no longer desire to be romanced, they just want to throw the guy on a bed, climb on top, and scream yes, yes, yes! There is no intimacy and love. The second they kiss on a date, most woman instantly go for the man's zipper while getting on her knees.
Today there is very little romance in sex. It has become just a raw violent lust. There is no such thing as dating anymore. Having sex is what is referred as dating now. First base is no longer stealing a kiss, it is now aggressive oral sex which is very popular with the teens since they feel they are still virgins afterwards. They become robot slaves to their lusts. Here is an example of how sick people have become. This apparently is very popular with the teens in school here.
Urban Dictionary: Hot-Carl.
So what is it that changed our society and stripped us of our respect and innocents? One cause is Hollywood which continues to push the envelope with TV shows and movies attacking our morality. Flipping through the channels one day during prime time, I came across an all out orgy in progress. It was full nudity, masturbation, and oral sex for any kid to tune into. If parents block the channel for their kids, I am sure the children will watch it at their friends places. Today pornography on TV is called sex education and/or "documentaries." Cartoons are getting very vulgar now too. On a show called Tripping the Rift, an alien was having sex with a woman. They were talking about more foreplay. The alien than asked if shoving his penis in up her ass would be considered foreplay.
Gone are the days of romantic movies like Casablanca that would sweep our imaginations away. They have been replaced by movies Fatal Attraction where they slam each other against walls and rip each others clothes off the second they are alone. Most movies condition people in accepting raw violent sex as something to be desired and completely normal.
But the single most powerful weapon against or morality is the internet. All kids have an email account in which they are sent ads for hardcore pornography. Raw sex is just a click away. With that click of a mouse, the addiction then takes hold.
Pornography is a powerful mind altering tool used by the Illuminati to destroy society from within. I will speak in terms relating to men since they are more sensitive to pornography because they visualize more than women do. But that too is changing.
Once a young boy or man becomes involved in pornography, they begin to change, and like a drug, a person desires stronger and more powerful kicks. After a while naked women does not satisfy, so the person moves on to higher and higher levels of perversion. Men then are then enveloped in a solitary world of masturbation and relationships that become only sexual and non-personal or intimate. This is why pornography never enhances sexual relations between married couples but destroys it.
Men begin to change as their sense of romance becomes totally stunted. Men used to romance a women and at times would steal a kiss. Now many men buy women dinner and demand a "blow job." A porno addicted man becomes totally focused on a woman's body, and women become nothing more than sex objects. When a woman does not give in, she is then seen as selfish *************************.
Men used to focus on the beauty of a woman's face. Now the focus is exclusively on a woman's chest and crotch. They also focus tight dresses, and thongs, and half opened blouses. There is no modesty or femininity in the way women dress today. In the media, young girls are taught from magazines and TV to show more and more skin in order to attract a boy. Oh they will attract them alright, but they will never have their respect. Young girls have female music icons that have dry sex on stage and in the videos. Today music videos have become soft porn verging on hard core porno.
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Your Lame,and your post was the biggest pile of steaming,verbal slurry based on nothing but personal opinion I have yet seen dripping down the side of this forum.Total blinkered revisionist garbage based on pie in the sky psychology and naked vitriol.You wasted 5 seconds of my life having me read it.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
Has it occured to your feeble, ham-fisted reasoning, that even in a secular world, that has no religion; that the porn industry as it is and it's saturation throughout all spectrums of our society, to the point that kids are addicted........ may not actually be healthy and contributes to sex crime, trafficking, exploitation of women and socially confused young males who can't distinguish between their false cyber love life and the real world?
Too Much of a Bad Thing: Internet Lures Kids into Porn Addiction - Page 1 - News - Dallas - Dallas Observer
Do you have to see everything in relation the to "Daa Chuurcch!"The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, published by the American Psychiatric Association and viewed as the bible among shrinks, doesn't recognize pornography addiction as an official disorder, although scientists in recent years have become more vocal about the notion. A researcher from the University of Pennsylvania, for instance, testified to members of the U.S. Senate in 2004.
"Even non-sex addicts will show brain reactions on PET scans while viewing pornography similar to cocaine addicts looking at images of people doing cocaine," Dr. Mary Anne Layden told senators. "This material is potent, addictive and permanently implanted in the brain."
There's a staunch cabal of lemmings on P.ie who respond to almost every subject with the same mindless reposte of:
"Yeaahhh I know but wha about dose duurty preests?"
Those dirty priests are almost certainly addicted to porn.
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Thomas Jefferson
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