Drumm: "treating less people in hospitals does not equate to cutbacks in services"

[spidermom]

Gp surgeries or PCC would need X rays and casting,capacity for scopes,suturing capacity,dressing clinics and the capacity for bloods.

Can't understand why in the larger centres...close to hospitals, why the PCC cannot be based within the hospital campus...with access to the diagnostics...rather than the expenditure of fully equiping PCCs.

[jimmyfour]

It's quite clear what he meant, and it's the right approach to be taking. The dribbling masses will always scream at the idea, but keeping people out of hospital should be the aim.

The problem as Foghorn alluded to is that it's a very Irish idea to start moving those people out before it's been verified that the local GP network is equipped to handle the increase.

There has been absolutely no adequate transfer of appropriate care to community services, and that goes for medical, surgical and psychiatric hospital based services that have been cut in recent times. You won't get a hospital bed if you have an eating disorder, ever, so there has been no cut in services; you also won't ever get seen by community services either (or sit on a wait list for 12 months).

[theghost]

people going into A&E for a few stitches that the local GP could easily do. its a two way streak the hospitals have to get their act together,but people need to be less eager to rush to A&E everytime they cut their finger.the privatisation of administration of hospitals is now a nesscessity ,the dead wood must be removed

People going to A&E for a few stitches are not admitted to hospital. My question remains: how do the HSE intend to cut 33,000 emergency hospital admissions - heart attacks/strokes/car crashes etc that need to be cared for in hospitals.

[Baron von Biffo]

What I would like to know is how they intend to cut emergency admissions to hospitals by 33,000 by 2012. Are they going to put a quota on how many heart attack/stroke/car accident victims a hospital can admit?

By closing A&Es and hospitals those who might otherwise have required admission will in future die in ambulances on the way to more remote facilities.

[Baron von Biffo]

Can't understand why in the larger centres...close to hospitals, why the PCC cannot be based within the hospital campus...with access to the diagnostics...rather than the expenditure of fully equiping PCCs.

Because the space they would take up is needed for co-located profit centres owned by Harney's mates.

[hammer]

Why do we ask questions now, when it is too late.

We voted these cowboys into Government for a 5 year period. We voted for more of the same. That is what we`ve got.

In 2012 the dosey electorate will vote for FF again.

Will things change. Of course they will

[hopi watcher]

Why do we ask questions now, when it is too late.

We voted these cowboys into Government for a 5 year period. We voted for more of the same. That is what we`ve got.

In 2012 the dosey electorate will vote for FF again.

Will things change. Of course they will

Yes we were duped, but fair is fair. Part of FF's 2002 manifesto was a promise to eradicate waiting lists in two years if returned to office.
During the last election campaign, Mary Harney stated over and over that the next phase of her reforms would see all citizens have equal access to all public hospitals.
Both these promises were lies, simple as. The hope is that people will have learned!!!!

[hammer]

The Irish public in general believe everything they hear.

We are where we are because we believe what cowboys like Bertie have to say.

We offer this twat RTE prime time shows for him to peddle his crap and his total biased view of how we got to where we are.

Mary Harney is a spoofer. Look at the debacle of our Mental Hospitals. Some of them are exempt from audit by HIQA WHY ?

Her failures are overlooked by the PD paper The Irish Times and her limited success trumpeted.

[theghost]

By closing A&Es and hospitals those who might otherwise have required admission will in future die in ambulances on the way to more remote facilities.

Hadn't thought of that. Harney and Drumm have a lot to answer for

[hammer]

RTÉ News: Health unions to discuss escalating action

Ban on overtime. That will help the Government with their exchequer difficulties

If anything they should try & work more overtime.