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    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts View Post
    No surprise there. You need to look elsewhere for the truth.
    Exactly, you certainly won't find it in the medical journals written by experts. That's the last place anyone should look. They're all full of trials which contradict what Wakefield is saying.

    Or the courts. Where Wakefield ended up dropping his legal action against channel 4 and paying all their costs.

    Or medical hearings. Where we "find out" that Wakefield performed lumbar punctures on children without proper approval. Or that he failed to mention how the children were recruited and that some were paid to take part.

    He goes against the medical establishment, and who finds him guilty? The medical establishment! If that isn't proof enough that he's right, then I don't understand logic.

    Can't trust any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts View Post
    You're completely mistaken, TA.

    Barbara Loe Fisher tells it like it is.

    This is one way in which the Americans are way ahead of us.
    NVIC-(a fairly suspect organisation) gave dr wakefield an humanitarian award even after it was shown he subjected children to unnecessary colonoscopies and more!
    how can any group be so blinkered??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnome Chomsky View Post
    Exactly, you certainly won't find it in the medical journals written by experts. That's the last place anyone should look. They're all full of trials which contradict what Wakefield is saying.

    Or the courts. Where Wakefield ended up dropping his legal action against channel 4 and paying all their costs.

    Or medical hearings. Where we "find out" that Wakefield performed lumbar punctures on children without proper approval. Or that he failed to mention how the children were recruited and that some were paid to take part.

    He goes against the medical establishment, and who finds him guilty? The medical establishment! If that isn't proof enough that he's right, then I don't understand logic.

    Can't trust any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by river View Post
    NVIC-(a fairly suspect organisation)
    Your evidence please.
    15 Jan 2001 -- Fine Gael pledged to end fluoridation because of "serious health concerns".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnome Chomsky View Post
    Can't trust any of them.
    Ah, you're learning.

    So why do you seem to trust in MMR?
    15 Jan 2001 -- Fine Gael pledged to end fluoridation because of "serious health concerns".

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    Why are so many people blind to what's going on here? Maybe this would help…
    15 Jan 2001 -- Fine Gael pledged to end fluoridation because of "serious health concerns".

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Charlatan deserves everything he gets. Hopefully the Yanks will take notice of today's findings, given that he is practicing among them now. All the perpetually-paranoid morons shouting 'conspiracy' and 'kangaroo court' before any verdict had even been given showed all the same rigorous logical reasoning and method as their hero...
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    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts View Post
    Why are so many people blind to what's going on here? Maybe this would help…
    Crap, conspiracy theory troll links to crap conspiracy theory site.

    What's new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggressivesecularist View Post
    Crap, conspiracy theory troll links to crap conspiracy theory site.

    What's new?
    I'd be interested in your choice of words for the following sequence of events, which wasn't highlighted by anyone until May 2007:

    1) July 2003: Lancet proprietor Crispin Davis becomes a non-executive director of MMR manufacturer Glaxo SmithKline.

    2) February 20, 2004: The Lancet throws Dr Andrew Wakefield to the wolves for tenuous reasons. He is dragged through the mud by the BBC, Sunday Times and the Government (including Tony Blair) for four days.

    3) February 27, 2004: Mr Justice Davis (Crispin’s brother, aka Sir Nigel Davis) dismisses the MMR litigants' appeal for restitution of legal aid.

    4) June 2004. Crispin Davis is knighted by the Blair government.
    15 Jan 2001 -- Fine Gael pledged to end fluoridation because of "serious health concerns".

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    Andrew Wakefield, Scientific Censorship, and Fourteen Monkeys

    Andrew Wakefield, Scientific Censorship, and Fourteen Monkeys; A statement by Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey


    When it comes to vaccines, Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey get it. They see how the pharma industry is engineering a campaign to silence Dr. Andrew Wakefield in order to suppress the publication of startling new evidence linking vaccines to severe neurological damage.

    At great risk to their professional careers, Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey have found the courage to dare to tell the truth about vaccines and autism. Despite the vicious attacks by the pro-vaccine zealots who will stop at nothing to destroy anyone who challenges conventional vaccine mythology, McCarthy and Carrey have issued a powerful, inspired statement that reveals the truth behind the Big Pharma smear campaign that is intent on destroying the reputation of Dr. Andrew Wakefield before he can publish the final results of this important new study

    Andrew Wakefield, Scientific Censorship, and Fourteen Monkeys; A statement by Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey

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