What do Atheists actually want?

[Foghorn]

Atheists treat you with love an honesty because they are of a benevolant nature.
Believers treat you with love and honesty because they want that reward and/or fear that punishment.

So much for the fairer society. Already yours has two tiers.

[Toland]

So basically we get to do whatever we want? I'm glad you're so honest. We can have -

1. Abortion
2. Euthanasia
3. Eugenics (Hitler loved this one)
4. Cloning
5. Disposable Human Beings for organ harvesting

The whole shooting match. It's great that we have to substitute one faith in God for another in Mankind.

you're repeating yourself and ignoring the post that I responded to this cheap point with. That makes you a simple propagandist.

[stringjack]

So basically we get to do whatever we want? I'm glad you're so honest. We can have -

1. Abortion
2. Euthanasia
3. Eugenics (Hitler loved this one)
4. Cloning
5. Disposable Human Beings for organ harvesting

The whole shooting match. It's great that we have to substitute one faith in God for another in Mankind.

Actually, there aren't very many problems with the things on your list. Abortion is complicated, but everything else is probably OK. The real problems arise when one can no longer justify things like democracy or human rights or prohibitions on torture.

[QuizMaster]

So much for the fairer society. Already yours has two tiers.

Nice twisting what I said. Go on quote the whole thing god boy.

[The Field Marshal]

Of course it can be argued easily that atheists are better people than religious believers.

Atheists treat you with love an honesty because they are of a benevolant nature.


Believers and non-believers tend to be good and bad in about equal measure.

Yeah like the way the aetheistic communist parties of Russia and China ,led by Stalin & Mao [such lovely people] when they murdered almost a a hundred million of their own peoples.

Oh yes and Pol Pot of the communist Khymer Rouge another atheist outfit.

Why do you admire these scumbags so much?

[Foghorn]

you're repeating yourself and ignoring the post that I responded to this cheap point with. That makes you a simple propagandist.

Or maybe I just didn't see it? But you see bad in everything so that must be the case then.

[Tony_1975]

That's not exactly news to me. Why are you ascribing such beliefs to me. I have no idea how others make their decisions - one way or the other.

I don't suppose they are asking you either?

You have previously suggested that removing religion equates to removing morality. I am trying to show you that it does not.

Tony,

That's exactly one of my concerns. Atheism is not a life philosophy. And as a political set of values it can assure us of nothing. Atheism is can only react against religion.

It can tear down certain parts of Society as they are right now. But it can make no promises as to what Society will be like after it does so. And it can open the door to things I have listed before -

1. Abortion
2. Euthanasia
3. Eugenics
4. Designer Babies
5. Cloning
6. Cloning for organ harvesting

It's a little bit like a Reform party that doesn't like what it sees, can make meanignful promises about the future and doesn't have a manifesto of its own.

[Tony_1975]

The Church will tell you.

How does the church know?

[QuizMaster]

Yeah like the way the aetheistic communist parties of Russia and China ,led by Stalin & Mao [such lovely people] when they murdered almost a a hundred million of their own peoples.

Oh yes and Pol Pot of the communist atheist Khymer Rouge another atheist outfit.

Why do you admire these scumbags so much?

Lazy daft arguments.
You lose.

[Foghorn]

Yeah like the way the aetheistic communist parties of Russia and China ,led by Stalin & Mao [such lovely people] when they murdered almost a a hundred million of their own peoples.

Oh yes and Pol Pot of the communist atheist Khymer Rouge another atheist outfit.

Why do you admire these scumbags so much?

Now to be fair. I'm sure they were lovely people if you took the time to get to know them.