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About LinkBacksI don’t see this happening. The entire story is spun from the comments of a single anonymous source.
I don’t see this happening. The entire story is spun from the comments of a single anonymous source.
Agreed, however if push comes to shove and the threat of compulsory vaccination IS issued then my guess is that the authorities will have tremendous difficulties in jailing half a million people at the same time. LOLOriginally Posted by Mercurial
im not taking a vaccine , its as simple as that.
Oh I have looked into it.
Quite a bit actually.
Silver is a biocide. Not a bad one at all actually. Except for its price it would be an excellent product for the coating or manufacture of high touch sites such are door handles, bed frames, table surfaces etc.
I also agree that dressings are manufactures with a silver content to act as a microbial and hence aid healing but their usage is actually not that high.
I have also seen the claims about colloidal silver.
Do you know how silver works as a biocide ?
Do you know how how any biocide works be it hypochlorite, hydrogen peroxide, copper, silver or any of the various products and coatings ?
The one things they all depend on is contact time. Actual physical contact between the biocide and the pathogen has to maintained between the product and the pathogen for a finite period of time.
This can actually be calculated and defined and is normally expressed as a D value.
A D-value is defined as the amount of time required to achieve a 1 log reduction. Sterility is accepted as a 6 log reduction)
So we know that for it to be effective it needs to touch every single surface at the same time for a finite period (for silver depending on grade the the actual alloy used and the research you look at the D value for silver is between 2 and 60 minutes. (some actually say it much much longer)
Now lets look at colloidal silver. It a suspension containing particles of silver.
Now lets look at it in usage particularly for internal usage.
Imagine you drink it. Even if you accept that a certain percentage will be absorbed into the body, the bast majority will remain in the gut and be passed through.
Now if it works as it says in the tin I would imagine it would kill all bacteria in the gut ? Silver does not really care what type of bacteria it is, or what type of pathogen it is its kills them all.
Do you know what would happen if it killed all the bacteria in your gut ?
It would probably kill you unless you received urgent medical attention.
But we know that wont happen because the amount of silver ingested is tiny and the surface area of the gut is massive. So it can only touch a small portion of the gut at any one time and even then for an uncontrollable period of time. But even then how does it differentiate between good bacteria and bad ? How would it attack the bad bacteria and ignore the bad ? It cannot.
Now lets go back to the little bit that we assumed was absorbed into the body ? What exactly will silver do in there ?
Using it as an external treatment. Personally I accept that it has some benefit how much is questionable but I suspect its relatively small. For it to be 100% effective it would need to be in contact with the entire surface area of the wound for a predetermined period of time which is not possible.
The H1N1 virus is actually relatively easy to kill, Hypochlorite will do so as will hydrogen peroxide. As will many off the shelf disinfectants and creams.
The Internet is a wonderful resource but its very easy to make claims, its also very easy to post research that has never been subject to peer review or to selectively quote from peer reviewed research to show it in a different light that the author intended.
If you are looking for a good alternative disinfectant look at Maruka Honey. It has been subject to testing, has shown interesting results as a wound dressing but eating pots of it wont do you much good either.
As for why the EU reduced the limits.
Silver ingested in large quantities is toxic. It will disinfect your gut. It will kill you
Even before this it will actually cause the same issues for the gut as long usage of indiscriminate antibiotics.
One of the key factors in the acquisition of C.diff which is a spore formign bacteria and thus even more resistant to all biocides including silver than "normal" bacteria.
No what you read was a quote taken out of context of what an official said.
He was trying to explain the difference between H1N1 and the "normal" flu and how it looks like a combination of many different strains.
Nothing like mention of a vaccine to bring the cranks out of their holes.
[QUOTE=sparkey321;2076484]Oh I have looked into it.
Now lets look at it in usage particularly for internal usage.
Imagine you drink it. Even if you accept that a certain percentage will be absorbed into the body, the bast majority will remain in the gut and be passed through.
Now if it works as it says in the tin I would imagine it would kill all bacteria in the gut ? Silver does not really care what type of bacteria it is, or what type of pathogen it is its kills them all.
Do you know what would happen if it killed all the bacteria in your gut ?
It would probably kill you unless you received urgent medical attention.
But we know that wont happen because the amount of silver ingested is tiny and the surface area of the gut is massive. So it can only touch a small portion of the gut at any one time and even then for an uncontrollable period of time. But even then how does it differentiate between good bacteria and bad ? How would it attack the bad bacteria and ignore the bad ? It cannot.
Now lets go back to the little bit that we assumed was absorbed into the body ? What exactly will silver do in there ?
Using it as an external treatment. Personally I accept that it has some benefit how much is questionable but I suspect its relatively small. For it to be 100% effective it would need to be in contact with the entire surface area of the wound for a predetermined period of time which is not possible.
The H1N1 virus is actually relatively easy to kill, Hypochlorite will do so as will hydrogen peroxide. As will many off the shelf disinfectants and creams.
If you are looking for a good alternative disinfectant look at Maruka Honey. It has been subject to testing, has shown interesting results as a wound dressing but eating pots of it wont do you much good either.
As for why the EU reduced the limits.
Silver ingested in large quantities is toxic. It will disinfect your gut. It will kill you
Thanks, you have covered extensively the effects of it in the gut and i appreciate and thank you for that, Using dabs of it around the nose and mouth would be the method to use with regard to swine flu, im wondering can you shed some light on that method of use as a preventative measure?
Here might help ya understand the cranks!
Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland
Birthday there is very solid evidence to prove that this H1N1 virus was made in a lab. I'll post some excerpts from Jane Burgermeisters evidence document here. Its a compilation of evidence, from microbiologists and scientists, referenced. This does sound conspiratorial but have a read. and after have a read of the whole document, its available at The Jane Burgermeister website - investigating the swine flu pandemic
The virus now known as H1N1 ‘swine flu’ appears to be an exact genetic match of the 1918 ‘Spanish flu’ virus, re-engineered from corpses dug out of the Alaskan permafrost by Jeffery Taubenburger in a continuation of the work of Johan Hultin. In a series of papers the team published the complete genome of the 1918 influenza virus, work funded by the US Veteran's Administration and the US Department of Defense. The completion of the genome in 2005 was numbered among the “breakthroughs of the year” by Science and was elected as "paper of the year" by Lancet.
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The history of the synthetic H1N1 flu virus and a not-so-rosy future
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer
May 21, 2009, 00:20
WAYNE MADSEN REPORT - Wayne Madsen Report
(WMR) -- The history of the extraction of the genetic material from the corpses of victims of the 1918 Spanish influenza virus who were buried in Arctic permafrost is part “X-Files” and part “Jurassic Park.”
After an unsuccessful 1951 mission, that involved U.S. biological warfare specialists, to extract 1918 Spanish flu genetic material in 1951 from a cemetery in the Inupiat Eskimo village of Brevig Mission, Alaska, scientists made another attempt, a successful one it turns out, in 1997.
Dr True Ott has reported that the published definition of the swine flu by the NCSL is identical to Jeffrey Taubenbergers 1997 initial findings concerning the 1918 killer virus which he successfully resurrected 6 years later.
It easiest to explain this highly improbable match between the two viruses by assuming the "swine flu“ virus was deliberately, and systematically engineered to resemble the 1918 Spanish killer flu virus.
Dr Ott explains that Taubenberger’s initial 1997 report identified the 1918 killer virus as a “novel” (new) swine flu that “recombined” avian (H5N1) as well as human (H3N2) virus fragments in its RNA structure.
Taubenberger, so Dr Ott argues as he reconstructs the events, then used a complex computer program to perfectly match the RNA and DNA structures, in order to replicate and “resurrect” the 1918 killer Spanish flu virus as a powerful biological weapon.
“SWINE FLU 2009” IS WEAPONIZED 1918 “SPANISH FLU”
By A. True Ott, PhD, ND
“The "Spanish" influenza pandemic killed at least 20 million people in 1918-1919, making it the worst infectious pandemic in history.
*Understanding the origins of the 1918 virus and the basis for its exceptional virulence may aid in the prediction of future influenza pandemics.* RNA from a victim of the 1918 pandemic was isolated from a formalin-fixed, paraffin-embedded, lung tissue sample. Nine fragments of viral RNA were sequenced from the coding regions of hemagglutinin, neuraminidase, nucleoprotein, matrix protein 1, and matrix protein. The sequences are consistent with a novel H1N1 influenza A virus that belongs to the
subgroup of strains that infect humans and swine, not the avian subgroup.”
SOURCE: Science Magazine Report, 21 March 1997, Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger et. al. See
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten...t/275/5307/179
Taubenberger’s initial report identified the 1918 killer virus as a “novel” (new) swine flu that “recombined” avian (H5N1) as well as human (H3N2) virus fragments in its RNA structure.
Taubenberger used a complex computer program to perfectly match the
RNA and DNA structures, and then successfully replicated and
“resurrected” the 1918 killer flu as a powerful biological weapon in 2003, 6 years later. Now, indeed as Taubenberger foresaw in 1997, evil and conspiring men in positions of high power can not only PREDICT FUTURE INFLUENZA PANDEMICS, but they can also UNLEASH THEMAT WILL from laboratory test tubes in order to achieve socio-economic agendas.
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This is just a snippet. There is solid proof of extremely sinister deeds underway, which affect all of us and which are now almost on top of us.
Have a look at the links earlier in the posts and the laws with regard to a pandemic which i posted it might shed some light on the issue. There is no spin involved if their was then it would be everywhere!
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