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About LinkBacksNope.. I'd stand right over that.. they are doing a good job in bad times.. which weren't created by themOriginally Posted by White Horse
Thats what I call "faint praise".
Nope.. I'd stand right over that.. they are doing a good job in bad times.. which weren't created by themThats what I call "faint praise".
OK. Have it your way. No, I won't give the Greens a vote. And since the Greens are doing so well on transfers anyway, they won't get one of mine.We'll take it!
3rd or 4th??? Wow, thanks. /sarcasm
It's not a real question. There is no issue of "rejecting" NAMA. Froggie knows this. He is a troll, and he is consistently working to an agenda.
At best, the Convention will mandate a negotiating position. If enough Fianna Fail TDs (And FG and Labour TDs) row in behind the Green position the Mandarins will have no option but to back down.
IMHO the motion should be that NAMA may not pay more than 30% of book value for a loan.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
In the terms that you frame the question there certainly is. You buy the FF prescription lock stock and barrel. Prettify the edges is all you are about. What a pity.
'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat
Are you suggesting now that there has been a coup? Who are the mandarins who will only back down if the opposition and government party TDs stand together? Who is setting the policy? As you are in government, why are you depending on the opposition to support you? If you think FG and Labour are more likely to support your policy than the rump of FF, what are you doing in govt with FF. Have an election.
30% sounds about right. I don't see a credible alternative to Nama at this stage, but to support it on the current proposed valuations would be complete madness and if nothing else, this needs to be hammered home to our Parliamentary Party at the convention.
As regards the original question about voting for them in the next GE, i'll be doing that anyway
Will I vote for the Greens? No, absolutely out of the question. They fooled us after the General Election by going into government with FF. I don't intend to be foole again.
Have you not been following this? There are no 'current proposed valuations'.30% sounds about right. I don't see a credible alternative to Nama at this stage, but to support it on the current proposed valuations would be complete madness and if nothing else, this needs to be hammered home to our Parliamentary Party at the convention.
As regards the original question about voting for them in the next GE, i'll be doing that anyway
'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat
SPN has a rather idiosyncratic understanding of how the system works.
Even though the Greens are in government they bear no responsibility for government decisions but it is right to blame FG and Lab even though they're in opposition.
NO!
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