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Thread: Are the Greens proping up the government for their Oireachtas pensions?

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    Nice to see SPN is back.

    He/She was mysteriously missing for the past month or so. Conveniently, this was at the same time the electorate was telling his party just what the think of all the BS they spout!

    Nice try SPN if you think you can just waltz back as if nothing has happened spewing the same unrealistic, broken record drivle as usual!!

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    White papers, proposals, promotions, committees, tasj forces etc are not implementing policy - no matter how you lie and spin it you're in government to be the toilet paper for FF to wipe their arse on and who'd of thought you'd take to it so fast - must be the connection with sh*t and manure I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanFrog View Post
    Do you honestly think these crumbs from the FF table are worth the destruction of the GP for the foreseeable future?
    Yes, and they're only crumbs to pond life like yourself.

    Green politics is only going one way, despite temporary setbacks. There was a 25% increase in the number of Green MEPs in the recent elections, and there are more Green Party public representatives in the EU today than at any time before.

    Once FG/Lab spend a little while in Government, and everybody's operating on a level playing field again, the Greens will regain their 5-6% of the vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd-Apjohn View Post
    If your lot hadn't gone in with the lying perjurer Bertie than maybe we'd have a minority FF government putting through the right FG and L policies as in 87-89 but without the Tallaght strategy and everyone under no doubt that it was FG/L calling the shots and taking the credit for sorting out the mess.
    We would have had an FF/Lab Government, and just imagine the shyte we'd be in now.

    In 87-89 we saw FF implement FG policies because Labour were handed their ass in 87. They came 4th behind the PDs because people were fed up of their dithering and the mess they had made of the previous Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd-Apjohn View Post
    White papers, proposals, promotions, committees, tasj forces etc are not implementing policy - no matter how you lie and spin it you're in government to be the toilet paper for FF to wipe their arse on and who'd of thought you'd take to it so fast - must be the connection with sh*t and manure I suppose.
    You really do live in an alternate reality, don't you?
    "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

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    The greens have been a disappointment in government......but I do not believe that they are hanging in for the money....they haven't learned that many tricks from their masters as yet!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd-Apjohn View Post
    White papers, proposals, promotions, committees, tasj forces etc are not implementing policy - no matter how you lie and spin it you're in government to be the toilet paper for FF to wipe their arse on and who'd of thought you'd take to it so fast - must be the connection with sh*t and manure I suppose.
    Yeah, whatever. I forgot that cliches always win arguments.
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Yeah, whatever. I forgot that cliches always win arguments.
    Well FF/Green cliches such as "international factors, talking down the economy" etc certainly LOST the arguement in the Local Elections!!

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    Well in the last nationwide election the Greens got about 97000 votes and this June they only got 44000 so at this rate they'll be lucky to get any votes when the general election comes along.

    The people have long memories and they won't forget what the Greens have done - it almost beggars belief that Gormless coudl say what he said about Ahern and then turn on his word put that perjurer back in power.

    So it seems you Greens have lost the argument already. How many Green councillors are there - remind me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Yes, and they're only crumbs to pond life like yourself.
    Well I am a frog, so "pond life" is appropriate I suppose.

    But seriously, why do you feel the need to resort to name calling? Are you incapable of making any sort of defense of the GP position in the face of the questions being asked here?

    And btw, they are only crumbs and most people see them as such.

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