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    Green Party to join European Movement

    The Green Party is today to join the European Movement, a leading lobby group that has campaigned to promote "the economic, political and social development of Europe". Last night, Green Party chairman John Gormley said the Greens would join the organisation on Europe Day in the hope that they could "bring some influence in the important debate on the future of Europe. - The Irish Times
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    which other parties are members?

    While I'm at it can any 'europologist' draw me a diagram of the division of labour (ie how each is funded and what its aims/activities are) between the european movement, the institute of european affairs, the national forum on europe and the office of the commission in Dublin?
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    About bloody time! Considering one of the most influential roles of the EU has been to force the government to respect its envirnomental responsibilities, the Greens opposition to the EU could be seen as an electoral weakness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Four
    About bloody time! Considering one of the most influential roles of the EU has been to force the government to respect its envirnomental responsibilities, the Greens opposition to the EU could be seen as an electoral weakness.
    We haven't been opposed to the EU. We are a pro-EU party! But that doesn't mean we hop on board we every EU treaty and idea that comes out of Brussels. It's an important institution and needs careful consideration and criticism, and the Greens by asking the questions that other parties should have asked, we've contributed to its growth.

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    Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael, Labour and the PDs are all members, I understand.

    Bertie Ahern is the Honorary President, with Ruairi Quinn the Chair and Pat Carey the Vice-Chair.

    http://www.europeanmovement.ie

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    Quote Originally Posted by krayZpaving
    Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael, Labour and the PDs are all members, I understand.

    Bertie Ahern is the Honorary President, with Ruairi Quinn the Chair and Pat Carey the Vice-Chair.

    http://www.europeanmovement.ie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Four
    About bloody time! Considering one of the most influential roles of the EU has been to force the government to respect its envirnomental responsibilities, the Greens opposition to the EU could be seen as an electoral weakness.
    It's at times like this one wonders at the allegedly vaunted intellectual abilities of the PDs. One can oppose EU Treaties and not oppose the EU. In fact, that's the Green party position.

    As for the European Movement, it is interesting that the Greens have joined, suggesting a move from its traditional position of an open-minded and critical analysis of the EU to the blind, "I've not read the Treaty, but it must be good", euro-federalism that unites the Irish political establishment from PDs to Labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cain1798
    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Four
    About bloody time! Considering one of the most influential roles of the EU has been to force the government to respect its envirnomental responsibilities, the Greens opposition to the EU could be seen as an electoral weakness.
    It's at times like this one wonders at the allegedly vaunted intellectual abilities of the PDs. One can oppose EU Treaties and not oppose the EU. In fact, that's the Green party position.

    As for the European Movement, it is interesting that the Greens have joined, suggesting a move from its traditional position of an open-minded and critical analysis of the EU to the blind, "I've not read the Treaty, but it must be good", euro-federalism that unites the Irish political establishment from PDs to Labour.
    Disappointing but since I once won an essay competition organised by thie EM crew, I can't feck the greens out of it too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cain1798
    As for the European Movement, it is interesting that the Greens have joined, suggesting a move from its traditional position of an open-minded and critical analysis of the EU to the blind, "I've not read the Treaty, but it must be good", euro-federalism that unites the Irish political establishment from PDs to Labour.
    I have no idea where you're getting that idea from. To take the Constitution as an example, there were so many competing views within the party (outright in favour, outright against [often from people who also hadn't read it], in favour but not yet, in favour of certain provisions but believing negotiations should continue on others etc) that it was agreed to hold a Special Convention when the election was called where the membership could decide the party's approach. Obviously, this has not taken place but it shows that we are far from the "euro-federalists" you seem to believe.

    As to the move, I welcome it. I'm not enamoured of the EU in its present form, so Green input into influencing the way it's portrayed in this country can only be beneficial. Better to be inside the tent pissing out etc.
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    What does Patricia McKenna think of this move? Have the Greens finally surrendered to the Eurofederalists?

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