Greens: ZERO seats in the 31st Dail

[Factorem]

The longer the current situation goes on, the worse the outlook for The Green Party.

They should have resigned over the banking bail-out -- that way they'd find themselves in power with 25% extra seats alongside FG instead of Labour.

The Workers Party died a slow death. The Greens will go like a bullet to the head.

The only person who might possibly retain a seat is Mary White, but even then, I have serious doubts.

[McDave]

The longer the current situation goes on, the worse the outlook for The Green Party.

They should have resigned over the banking bail-out -- that way they'd find themselves in power with 25% extra seats alongside FG instead of Labour.

The Workers Party died a slow death. The Greens will go like a bullet to the head.

The only person who might possibly retain a seat is Mary White, but even then, I have serious doubts.

I agree. (Unfortunately) the Greens are going down the tubes. Once they made the truly unbelievable Faustian pact of going in with FF, they hung themselves out to dry. FF are toxic. Once the economy officially turned, there was nothing in the Green policy lexicon which was going to speak to a fist-farcked electorate. It's a real pity as there are some very talented people in the Greens. If only they had thought strategically instead of tactically...

[toxic avenger]

They've convinced themselves that their holding their own in the polls so far this year shows they are immune, that people blame FF alone. They are in for a very rude awakening. The PDs thought the same right up until May 2007...

[ibis]

Uhuh. Do any of you vote Green? As a first choice?

[toxic avenger]

Uhuh. Do any of you vote Green? As a first choice?

Did in 2002 and 2007 (taking Sargent at his word, a little naively assuming he didn't mean he'd resign), Dan Boyle of these parts (who had impressed me on Cork City Council). Not again.

[Ah Well]

The longer the current situation goes on, the worse the outlook for The Green Party.

They should have resigned over the banking bail-out -- that way they'd find themselves in power with 25% extra seats alongside FG instead of Labour.

The Workers Party died a slow death. The Greens will go like a bullet to the head.

The only person who might possibly retain a seat is Mary White, but even then, I have serious doubts.

Hard to say exactly Factorem .... based upon the fact of the Irish Electorate being as predictable as the Weather they have to endure

But yes the Greens shall suffer damage from this escapade, which shall be considerable and as to where that shall lie or end is yet undetermined

But so did their predecessors and so shall their successors and so shall all who subscribe to FF coalitions

It's all part of that equation really .... Irish Electorate and Fianna Fail.... round and round in circles

[McDave]

Uhuh. Do any of you vote Green? As a first choice?

I have at certain points in the past. Next time round, not even a low preference.

Why not? Because by going in with FF, they acted as the latest supply of fodder for permanent FF govt. I've heard the arguments about Labour being ready to jump ahead of the Greens into bed with Ahern. My own view is that, by staying at arms length, the Greens would have reaped huge rewards in the next election. Instead I think they'll be stuffed the next GE. Which is a shame because Ireland needs a strong Green cohort to rejuvenate our body politic.

[ibis]

Did in 2002 and 2007 (taking Sargent at his word, a little naively assuming he didn't mean he'd resign), Dan Boyle of these parts (who had impressed me on Cork City Council). Not again.

And the reasons you voted Green were?

[toxic avenger]

And the reasons you voted Green were?

I considered Sargent an honourable man (still do), considered Dan Boyle a capable and clever man, broadly agreed with the general Green policy platform and considered them to be politically fairly left without being nutjob left. I also considered their castigation of FF corruption and croneyism to be sincere, and their lambasting of the PDs for acting as coalition mudguard to be on the ball. Gormley's Planet Bertie speech I thought was inspired.

But then they saw that greasy pole...

[ibis]

I considered Sargent an honourable man (still do), considered Dan Boyle a capable and clever man, broadly agreed with the general Green policy platform and considered them to be politically fairly left without being nutjob left. I also considered their castigation of FF corruption and croneyism to be sincere, and their lambasting of the PDs for acting as coalition mudguard to be on the ball. Gormley's Planet Bertie speech I thought was inspired.

But then they saw that greasy pole...

So not actually environmentalism? I wonder how many others fit the same profile?