The "whistleblower" was the Contractor who was ripping off the taxpayer and doing untold damage on the site.Originally Posted by EamonnZ
He blew the whistle in an attempt to distract from the real issues and deflect attention away from himself and the muppets on Cork County Council who facilitated him.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
So, do the Greens know what to do about Haulbowline? And will they do it?
15 Jan 2001 -- Fine Gael pledged to end fluoridation because of "serious health concerns".
In what way?
They are delivering on the 2007 Manifesto in spades. That is what they were elected to do!
John Gormley and Eamon Ryan are both driving through a "new, fresh and vital" agenda in their respective Departments.The Greens at the time represented a break from traditional Irish politics, particularly traditional Fianna Fail politics, which is mired in sleaze and corruption. They were new, fresh, vital and offering something different. However, all they've done is allowed this train wreck of a Fianna Fail administration, led by a deeply unpopular Taoiseach to continue on based on some kind of vague hope that they might be able to get something Green done.
This "Train Wreck" has been re-elected twice (2002 and 2007). It isn't like people didn't know what they were getting when they voted FF Ministers to top the polls in their respective Constituencies.
The alternative in 2007 was a FF/Lab Coailition. That would have been a total disaster - never mind the fact that all the groundbreaking Green legislation that the three Green Ministers have driven through would never have happened.
Around the Cabinet Table he is also seen as "an idealist, a guy with a great deal of enthusiasm and lots to offer", which means that when he goes to bat on an issue he gets a good hearing - the fact that he is extremely attentive to detail is also a great help in that environment tooI like Eamon Ryan as a politician, he comes across as an idealist, a guy with a great deal of enthusiasm and lots to offer, but he has been swallowed up by the Fianna Fail machine. It was quite painful to watch him almost looking embarrassed to be defending Fianna Fail policies on the Late Late Show last night. I thought Pat Kenny gave him quite an easy ride, considering he could have really put him on the spot.
Defending the Status Quo?John Gormley, another fantastic performer in opposition seems to have turned his great abilities towards defending the status quo and defending the indefensible. Frankly, he's now looking like a Fianna Fail front bench blustering rottweiler defending the party to the last.
John Gormley?
His announcement last weekend about eVoting was a Harvey Smith to half the Cabinet and many of the top Officials in his Department. That took balls!
Not at all!It will be a great shame if the Greens are destroyed by bolting themselves to this, possibly the most incompetent, Fianna Fail government of all time.
If the changes they are making stick; if they can keep up the momentum they currently have for driving through changes in key areas, and if they can hold out to Copenhagen, then it doesn't really matter what happens in the 31st Dail.
They got the chance to make the changes in 2007, they took the chance, and thus far they have done it really well.
Your suggestion that they should have waited to MAYBE do it from 2012-2017 is idiotic in the extreme. This way the changes got made in 2008-9, and most of them will stick. The changes will be in place in 2012-2017 regardless of whether there are Green Ministers or not.
That, my friend, is a result!
This "completely corrupt, incompetent mess of a Government" that the people voted for in 2007.I would ask the Greens to take a look at youselves, you are filling the same role as Jackie Healey-Rae or any of the FF independents. Looking all fresh faced and healthy, being idealistic and talking the talk doesn't really work when you're propping up this completely corrupt, incompetent mess of a Government.
The electorate chose FF to lead the 30th Dail.
What the Greens did was make sure that the coalition contained a Party with a strong policy based agenda, as opposed to the alternative "Wafflers-R-Us" that Labour would have provided.
We have new Green policies being adopted by Government on a weekly basis. They couldn't do that if they were in opposition.28 years of building up the Green Party could be all flushed down the toilet because of this fiasco and it could take another 28 years to get back to being a serious political force again.
Please, for the sake of your own party, wake up and look in the mirror! It's not a pretty picture.
The strength of the Green Party lies in the dedication of its members and supporters to getting the Green Policies implemented. We have seen in the last two years how effective those policies can be, the positive changes they can make to people's lives, and the fact that they are the only policies that properly address the changes we can see coming down the line due to Peak Oil.
The IEA reported in November that Oil Production is going to decline by 9% per annum.
The Greens have policies to cope with that.
None of the other Parties even know what Peak Oil means.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
I am not denying that, but now that Mr Gormley has the power to do something, but has not yet secured the estimated €300M to clean up the area. Health is at stake here, as I posted earlier the blame game is over, it's now time for action.
Cheers
Yep!
But I can't see it happening at a time when we are already spending €65 million a day more than we are taking in.
Things like paying Teachers, Gardai and Nurses are higher on people's agenda just now.
Isn't it an awful pity that Fine Gael, Labour and Fianna Fail couldn't find the resources to remediate the site in the good times.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
I'm sorry, the Greens cannot be excluded either!
"The Green Party has a clear and consistent on this issue going back to 2000, which the Labour Party would be aware of had they bothered to do their research," Senator Boyle concluded.
To be radical, I would cut the overseas aid by the amount required. The problem will not go away by itself.
The Overseas Aid budget has to go alright. It is an anachronism in the current circumstances.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
Nothing sums up the Cowen/Gormley government more than going after the weakest first when looking for money.
Cervical cancer, Medical cards, Cystic fibrosos and Overseas budget.
Guess the lobby groups arent strong enough for these issues.
I believe that children are the future
Unless we stop them now.
Like Sinn Fein will?
That is entirely untrue. Phil Hogan and Joanna Tuffy are two of the most hostile and/or facile environment spokespeople every to be appointed by their parties. Day in, day out they go for cheap shots and point scoring over policy.
The majority of FF backbenchers aren't particularly interested in the environment and energy policies that the greens are implementing. Which is more can be said for their colleagues across the floor who try to actively undermine what Eamon Ryan and John Gormley are achieving.
So much much for Labour's progressive credentials.
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