Is Paul Gogarty actually mad?

[geraghd]

Paul is a passionate guy with social conscience. If the people who Paul "attacked" looked in the mirror they might see that he was right.

Maybe he should stop ""attack""ing people and be constructive. Maybe then people could see whatever it is you think that is good about the guy.

[Mar Tweedy]

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Interesting thread in the light of recent events......

Paul Gogarty's 'inner tension' goes on - now he takes it out on others - just like the bully-boys government he is part of.

[reknaw]

Just more posturing and points scoring by Hayes, who is as genuine as a forty-euro note. He was at Maynooth in the early 1990s, doing a H.Dip. I think, and a lot of us thought anyone who bogarted a joint like he did was just a selfish jerk and not to be trusted.

[bogmanjoe]

I have been tempted to use the same phraseology many times myself and may yet do so

Below is a correspondance between
a friend of mine and two members of
the Green Party. The response from
Paul Gogarty is very insightful.


Dear Sir

I would like you to comment on the fact that the IPCC is now an obsolete
organisation following the revelations, sadly not reported in this
country for some reason, that they have been manipulating data in a
fraudulent attempt to prove the case for AGW.

This is basically a case of criminal fraud and governments around the
world who do not press for a full investigation of this would, in my
opinion, be complicit in the crime.

I have sent you a great deal of info on this matter which you have
chosen, understandably, to ignore due to your whole ideology being based
on these lies.

It's about time you stood up and admitted you have been conned.
Do the right thing and bring some honour back into the political system instead
of burying your heads in the sand and clinging to discredited IPCC
reports as evidence of AGW. To do so shows a level of delusion or
complete denial of the increasing evidence that this is the biggest hoax
to be perpetrated on humanity.

Yours sincerely,

Neil Foster


From: Garreth McDaid (garreth.mcdaid@nightbluefruit.com)
Sent: 26 November 2009 15:09:35
To: Neil Foster (neilf@hotmail.com)

Neil Foster wrote:
I would like you to comment on the fact that the IPCC is now an obsolete
organisation following the revelations, sadly not reported in this
country for some reason, that they have been manipulating data in a
fraudulent attempt to prove the case for AGW.

Garreth McDaid, Green Party Representative for Roscommon/Sligo/Leitrim wrote:
frack off, you idiot.

Will that suffice?

Garreth

Neil then reported this to higher authorities in the Green Party. One of them was Paul Gogarty TD
Here is his response.

Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:23:03 +0000
Subject: Re: Abuse from my local green 'representative.
From: paul.gogarty@oireachtas.ie
To: neilf@hotmail.com

Dear Sir,

I agree with his sentiment certainly, although certainly not his intemperate use of language. I have been tempted to use the same phraseology many times myself and may yet do so, but one cannot condone it in this instance.

The vast majority of validated scientific evidence now points to climate change. We have to deal with this full stop. The 'revelations' do not change the basic picture.

The vested interests promoting this view as a quasi religion rather than a science have far less to gain than the vested interests promoting the alternative. It is interesting that most of the conspiracy theories abounding are propegated and funded by oil companies.

There is no global conspiracy on climate change by Governments; in fact the opposite is the case if the Irish Government's traditional role is anything to go by, not to mention the US, China, Australia and much of the developed world.

I am responding to this email purely out of courtesy, not sharing your views on a global criminal conspiracy.

One is always aware of various hoaxes that are propegated, but in this instance the evidence is overwhelmingly on the other side.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Gogarty
I have been tempted to use the same phraseology many times myself and may yet do so,

[Sue Donim]

Yes - but he will have plenty of time to seek treatment after the next election - in between Q'ing in the post office for his dole money - till then we here in the rational parts of DMW will just have to do what we have been doing for the last 7 years - i.e. ignoring him - after all he will go away eventually

[SideysGhost]

Paul Gogarty might be a bit mad or he might just be lacking in anything resembling self-control. Plus he's largely harmless.

Lenny, on the other hand, is quite clearly stark staring underpants-on-head pencil-up-nose bonkers. But he's Minister of Finance and de facto Taoiseach, Clowen seemingly haven given up even pretending any more.

Which is more important? And which is the country more interested in - nay, which is the country full of talk about while studiously ignoring completely the other, far more important one?

Sums up the problem with Ireland and Irish politics for me, really.

[joemomma]

Dear Sir,

I agree with his sentiment certainly, although certainly not his intemperate use of language. I have been tempted to use the same phraseology many times myself and may yet do so, but one cannot condone it in this instance.

The vast majority of validated scientific evidence now points to climate change. We have to deal with this full stop. The 'revelations' do not change the basic picture.

The vested interests promoting this view as a quasi religion rather than a science have far less to gain than the vested interests promoting the alternative. It is interesting that most of the conspiracy theories abounding are propegated and funded by oil companies.

There is no global conspiracy on climate change by Governments; in fact the opposite is the case if the Irish Government's traditional role is anything to go by, not to mention the US, China, Australia and much of the developed world.

I am responding to this email purely out of courtesy, not sharing your views on a global criminal conspiracy.

One is always aware of various hoaxes that are propegated, but in this instance the evidence is overwhelmingly on the other side.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Gogarty
I have been tempted to use the same phraseology many times myself and may yet do so,

That's actually a very good response from Paul Gogarty, to a totally over-the-top and ill-informed letter from your friend. So clearly he's not totally mad.

Did you edit the response from Garreth McDaid or did he use the word "frack"?

[DCon]

Yes - but he will have plenty of time to seek treatment after the next election - in between Q'ing in the post office for his dole money - till then we here in the rational parts of DMW will just have to do what we have been doing for the last 7 years - i.e. ignoring him - after all he will go away eventually

assuming he is never elected again, and he lives to be 80, what is he likely to cost the State with his Ministerial pension?

Can one draw the dole while also receiving a Ministerial pension?

[dotski_w_]

assuming he is never elected again, and he lives to be 80, what is he likely to cost the State with his Ministerial pension?

Can one draw the dole while also receiving a Ministerial pension?

He's not a minister, never has been.

[DCon]

He's not a minister, never has been.

good point.

do TD's get fat pensions when they lose their seats, or is it just Minster's?