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About LinkBacksIt may be the end of the Lenihan dynasty in FF. It is a level of staggering incompetence that would not have occurred under Bertie Ahern.Originally Posted by SPN
Regards...jmcc
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It may be the end of the Lenihan dynasty in FF. It is a level of staggering incompetence that would not have occurred under Bertie Ahern.
Regards...jmcc
'Meanwhile, almost €70 million promised to the horse racing and greyhound industry next year should be diverted to pay for medical cards, a government backbencher claimed.
Budget 2009 contains funding of €69.7m to Horse Racing Ireland and Bord na gCon which accounts for more than a third of the total spend on sports next year.
Green party TD Paul Gogarty became the first member of the junior coalition party to call for the Government to completely scrap plans to introduce medical card means testing.
He wrote to the three ministers responsible for finance, sports and health, and said money from the Horse and Greyhound Racing Fund should be used to provide universal free health care to the over-70s.'
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'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat
In this case Lenihan and Harney scammed the FF Ministers more than they scammed the Green Ministers.The Greens' naivety remains almost funny. Labour and the PDs learnt to never trust FF one inch. Des O'Malley warned Dick Spring in 1992 to be careful. He wasn't and got burnt. Numerous politicians warned the Greens to be careful and not to trust FF, that FF would scam them if they got the chance.
And still, according to SPN, you had Green ministers actually trusting FF.The fools.
No Green Councillors are up in arms about tax reliefs on bicycle clips. No Green Councillors are up in arms about grants for home insulation.
Every single FF Councillor, every single FF TD, and every single FF Minister are up in arms about Lenihan and Harney not having done their sums on the Medical Card for the over 70s.
This wasn't FF scamming the Greens - This was incompetence.
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"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
Mother of God! It is getting surreal now.
Surely to God you know the basic rule of coalitions? It is simple. You double-check everything. It is your arse on the line if it goes wrong.
So you do not ever rely blindly on what your partners say. You check them. Everything FF proposed in the FF-Labour government was double-checked and treble-checked by Labour. It had its own people to do that.
If the Greens didn't double-check such a proposal as cutting automatic medical cards from over 70s then they are stupid beyond belief and can blame no-one but themselves. And how in the name of God did they sign off on a policy without insisting that the cut off points are clarified in detail, to the penny, first?
You just wonder what sort of amadáns are in the cabinet when no-one thought to check the basic elementary facts! The whole farce reads like an episode of Fawlty Towers.
Erm.....they're spending my money on [SIZE="7"]WHAT?[/SIZE]
Thats baletent corporate welfare! They're shafting sick old people for bleedin horses!!!!!!!!!?????????
How long have we been paying for this crap?
Really, is there no end to these FG wa.nkathons about the Green Party?
I am gradually coming to the conclusion that members of YFG get together for "Anti-GP" sleepovers in which they all sit around in their pyjamas tapping away on laptops and passing around a bottle of Sunny D.
Prize for 'Funniest' post (which must include a reference to lightbulbs) is a signed picture of Richard Bruton in cycling shorts.
A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
Have to agree!
But my point was in relation to the nonsense that the FFailures had done over the Greens and the Greens were "wimps" for allowing it.
The Green Ministers have definitely learned from this fiasco, but the only people Fianna Fail did over were the FFailure Candidates in next year's Locals - and they were NOT expecting that!
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"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
The poor Greenies!
They so loved in opposition dishing criticism of everyone and everything. But now in government they have become so so sensitive. Ah bless.
Calm down. There's no need for a hissy fit.
But it isn't the Greens' asses on the line with this, is it? It actually has the potential to remove a few problems. Could this be a powerplay? Though I'd like the opinion of a political expert such as yourself on this.Surely to God you know the basic rule of coalitions? It is simple. You double-check everything. It is your arse on the line if it goes wrong.
Lawyers aren't economists ^H^H^H accountants?You just wonder what sort of amadáns are in the cabinet when no-one thought to check the basic elementary facts! The whole farce reads like an episode of Fawlty Towers.
Regards...jmcc
I was canvassing tonight, and the one point that stood out was that people don't really see any difference between FF Councillors and FG Councillors.
They are both seen as establishment by non-partisan folks.
"Green Party! Great! We need to see some change in relation to (issue 1, issue 2, issue 3)".
The BIG issue that came up is an issue that a local FG Councillor has been campaigning on for years.
Nobody knew!
Go figure.
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Last edited by SPN; 21st October 2008 at 12:39 AM.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
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