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    Quote Originally Posted by joemomma View Post
    Hands up. I hadn't seen the apology. Gormley goes up a notch for admitting his mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Humbug View Post
    Paul Gogarty .....

    1) Gave up 1,200 euro of his salary as a gesture when his calls for a pay freeze went unheeded by Oireachtas members

    2) forewent a 12,000 euro 'sweetener' payable to TDs and Senators who gave up their Council seats within a specific timeframe.
    Oh dear!

    Looks like Gogarty HAS foregone payments before.

    Maybe Enda has too ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Oh dear!

    Looks like Gogarty HAS foregone payments before.

    Maybe Enda has too ;-)
    What about the 8% reduction, has he acted on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr. Hank Tree View Post
    What about the 8% reduction, has he acted on that?
    Gogarty is too busy thinking up his new publicity stunt to carry out any of his promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr. Hank Tree View Post
    What about the 8% reduction, has he acted on that?
    LOL!

    You guys are hysterical.




    We're still waiting for confirmation that Enda acted on his "populist stunt".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    LOL!

    You guys are hysterical.

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    Yes the facts often are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    LOL!

    You guys are hysterical.

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    Well as lovely as his other forgoings are, they concern different matters in principle in different contexts. This discussion concerns the particular matter of TDs taking pay reductions in these tough times as a token of leadership and solidarity, and so far Gogarty has been the one flying the kite, while Enda has acted to this detriment by undertaking an obligation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    Yes the facts often are!
    Fact: Gogarty has form for foregoing payments

    Fact: Enda went off half-cocked at a Press Conference

    Are there any other facts I've missed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Fact: Gogarty has form for foregoing payments

    Fact: Enda went off half-cocked at a Press Conference

    Are there any other facts I've missed?
    Wow...hard to beat articulation like that. I'll let Fr Hank point out the facts yet again. I have to go elsewhere.

    "Like teaching Latin to a pig" springs to mind. You have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr. Hank Tree View Post
    Enda has acted to this detriment by undertaking an obligation.
    Enda acted to his detriment by going off half cocked.


    Lets wait until Sunday's papers come out. We'll find out a lot more then methinks.


    Meanwhile, here's the Examiner's take on the farce:

    Is Enda Kenny the peddler of populist nonsense or principled leadership?

    The shadow cabinet members flanking him left Fine Gael’s pre-budget briefing some €5,300 poorer yesterday after their leader announced he was giving himself a 5% pay cut to show solidarity with those feeling the strain in these recessionary times.

    “Sorry to land you in that there, lads,” he told his colleagues when he thought the microphones were switched off after the two men were given little choice but to publicly follow his example.

    .....


    Some TDs admitted they first learned about the pay cut move from their concerned wives, and such surprise is understandable considering it came just two days after Mr Kenny dismissed a call from Green TD Paul Gogarty for Oireachtas members to take an 8% pay cut as “populist nonsense”.

    Mr Kenny’s money-losing move may smack of the gimmicky, especially as the Paymaster General is likely to inform the opposition leader he is unable to take 5% off and redirect it back to public funds, which would rather undermine the whole point of the move.

    “Sorry to land you in that there, lads,” - I think that phrase will come back to haunt him.
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    "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte

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