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Thread: Gormley needs to prevent a 2nd Referendum.

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    Re: Gormley needs to prevent a 2nd Referendum.

    Quote Originally Posted by returning officer
    If, as it appears from very early indications, that the Lisbon Treaty is defeated, the natural knee jery reaction by Cowen and the rest of the FF cabinet (O Cuiv aside), with cheerleading from Fine Gael, is to have a second go to get it right.

    If Gormley and Ryan allow this, when his party democratically voted not to have a position, their credibility amongst his own supporters will be gone.

    Until Cowen confirms it, they needs to make his position clear.
    Preventing a referendum is a clear example of undemocratic behaviour.
    Ireland interests are best secured within a more dynamic EU. Vote YES to Lisbon.

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    Re: Gormley needs to prevent a 2nd Referendum.

    Quote Originally Posted by returning officer
    Why are you so confident there won't be a re-run?

    I think there will either be a modified version or the non-Crotty-able parts will be introduced piecemeal.
    Pretty much all of it, apart for the establishment of legal competence in areas like Sport and Space policy, *was* not-Crotty-able, but I think the fact that it has been put to referendum now means that *all* of it is not-Crotty-able.
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Re: Gormley needs to prevent a 2nd Referendum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quant
    Quote Originally Posted by dot
    Patricia Mc Kenna played a blinder and represents not alone someone who
    went for Chair but a considerable section of erstwhile Greens. I would suggest
    that Gormley needs to listen to the women in his party instead of pretending that the
    validity of their experience is disposable to him.

    it's patronising and of course indicative of a deep mistrust of women..

    Her experience in the EU was discounted by the Greens in the Dail.
    which other political parties do not do- ignore someone with seniority and
    polticial experience.

    Gormley publically advocated a 'Yes'- he's not the man to ask.
    WTF?! Because Gormley disagreed with 1 woman, he has a "deep distrust of women"?!
    His misogyny is clear Quant, don't try and hide it. He despises women, clearly!
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    Re: Gormley needs to prevent a 2nd Referendum.

    Quote Originally Posted by returning officer
    If Gormley and Ryan allow this, when his party democratically voted not to have a position, their credibility amongst his own supporters will be gone.
    The Greens still have credibility? After their u-turns on all the issues that got them votes? I don't think so. They'll be wiped out at the next election, and good riddance, too.
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    Re: Gormley needs to prevent a 2nd Referendum.

    Lisbon is dead and gone, there will be no such thing as a modified Lisbon,they made the rules all we want
    is democracy or are we been proved right that it is gone.Its back to the drawing board and as member we have a right to be there and if our politicans are lacking, lets elect Ganley.

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