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    Canvassing Green Party opinions on nuclear power

    Just a quick canvassing of opinion, nothing scientific.

    If you are a Green party member or supporter, what is your position on nuclear power?

    Please state whether you are:

    (1) Strongly in favour
    (2) Generally in favour, but with reservations.
    (3) Generally opposed, but may be open to changing opinion
    (4) Strongly opposed

    ..and give reasons, if you wish.
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    (5) Undecided.

    I'm more concerned about climate change than the disposal issue, but I'm unsure about whether or not nuclear can make up the numbers in any signifigant way. Threads like this tend to dip into unreferenced assertion, so I'm not hopeful that people here will convince me one way or the other.

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    Re: Canvassing Green Party opinions on nuclear power

    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist
    If you are a Green party member or supporter...

    (1) Strongly in favour
    (2) Generally in favour, but with reservations.
    (3) Generally opposed, but may be open to changing opinion
    (4) Strongly opposed
    There are shorter names for these options:

    (1) Strongly in favour That would be PD.
    (2) Generally in favour, but with reservations. FG
    (3) Generally opposed, but may be open to changing opinion FF
    (4) Strongly opposed
    (5) Undecided Labour

    Number 4 would probably be Sinn Féin and... Any Green Party members who are not in the number 4 camp would seem to be in the wrong party.

    Then again, the current version of the GP seems to be very different from what its principles and policies would suggest.
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    Re: Canvassing Green Party opinions on nuclear power

    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts
    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist
    If you are a Green party member or supporter...

    (1) Strongly in favour
    (2) Generally in favour, but with reservations.
    (3) Generally opposed, but may be open to changing opinion
    (4) Strongly opposed
    There are shorter names for these options:

    (1) Strongly in favour That would be PD.
    (2) Generally in favour, but with reservations. FG
    (3) Generally opposed, but may be open to changing opinion FF
    (4) Strongly opposed
    (5) Undecided Labour

    Number 4 would probably be Sinn Féin and... Any Green Party members who are not in the number 4 camp would seem to be in the wrong party.

    Then again, the current version of the GP seems to be very different from what its principles and policies would suggest.
    Giventhat the Green Party Leadership want to support the Lisbon Treaty and the uratom Treaty along with it, I would say there should be a new option .. 6) If the price is right.

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    I can't see how the PDs would be in favour of a Nuke, given that it will require massive taxpayer subsidies.

    Much more likely that Labour would row in behind Brendan Ogle and the Trades Unions in calling for this taxpayer funded White Elephant.

    (Pidge: A Nuke would be of no help in the fight against climate change. That is just spin put out by the people selling Nuke technology)
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    I'm a 4.
    Nuclear fission is not sustainable.
    The polution from Nuclear waste is not acceptable. There is no solution to getting rid of it.
    Tne nuclear industry is not economically viable unless it is linked with the armaments industry.
    We will be much better off going down the renewablee route. There is more than enough latent renewable energy in Ireland to supply our needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brocolli
    There is more than enough latent renewable energy in Ireland to supply our needs.
    ...... except in the area of Transport Fuels - which a Nuke would not address anyway.
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    Re: Canvassing Green Party opinions on nuclear power

    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts
    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist
    If you are a Green party member or supporter...

    (1) Strongly in favour
    (2) Generally in favour, but with reservations.
    (3) Generally opposed, but may be open to changing opinion
    (4) Strongly opposed
    There are shorter names for these options:

    (1) Strongly in favour That would be PD.
    (2) Generally in favour, but with reservations. FG
    (3) Generally opposed, but may be open to changing opinion FF
    (4) Strongly opposed
    (5) Undecided Labour

    Number 4 would probably be Sinn Féin and... Any Green Party members who are not in the number 4 camp would seem to be in the wrong party.

    Then again, the current version of the GP seems to be very different from what its principles and policies would suggest.

    Great post !

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    Re: Canvassing Green Party opinions on nuclear power

    Quote Originally Posted by siostalóir
    Given that the Green Party Leadership want to support the Lisbon Treaty and the Euratom Treaty along with it, I would say there should be a new option .. 6) If the price is right.
    The Euratom Treaty was one of the founding treatys of the European Union.

    We will not be voting on that in the Lisbon referendum. It is already there.

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    Re: Canvassing Green Party opinions on nuclear power

    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts
    Any Green Party members who are not in the number 4 camp would seem to be in the wrong party.
    Meh. That seems to a big part of the inaccessibility of the whole issue - there's a whole political identity tied into the issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts
    Then again, the current version of the GP seems to be very different from what its principles and policies would suggest.
    Could it be that the principles of the membership have changed, because the membership has?

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