Green economics

[Gladstone]

on the green website what used to be an extensive economic programme has been replaced by one speech by Dan Boyle....whats the story

[green]

The economic policy document is currently being extensively redrafted and internal consultation is presently underway to this effect.

If there is a particular issue on which you would like clarification, Dan can be reached at dboyle@oireachtas.ie

[SPN]

I don't know for sure, but in the past old policies have been removed from the website whenever a policy review process was being undertaken. The Economic Policy is currently under such a review.

[Gladstone]

Preps for a poitential govt run in 2007?

Why raise the corpo tax rte to 15% you would not get a huge amount of money from it but would deter investment.

[mjcoughlan]

Green economics???

[Andrew-formerly'Danny']

Green economics???

PDs and Health???
PDs and equality???
PDs and the environment???

[SPN]

Considering MJs local party collegaues keep referring to the upgrade of the Dublin Road as the "M9" when traffic volumes on the road are only one tenth of the volumes needed to justify a Motorway, I think most will agree that PD economics have more to do with waffle and chest puffing than they have to do with even a basic understanding of how an economic system works - long term that is!

our economic policies are informed by values, values that are not about the economics of the next opinion poll or the next general election, but represent an approach to economics that is about long-term sustainability. We envisage thriving local economies made up of a multiplicity of enterprises, offering the widest possible choice for those buying and those selling goods and services.

This government prides itself on being a pro business government. But how pro business is it really, when it can’t even put into practice elementary business principles in relation to its own policies? In this regard this government can be seen to be very poor at business indeed.

The litany of over expenditures, mis-management, and shoddy political practices which this government has presided over, should have shamed any government with a sense of decency, and should have led to a cabinet full of resignations. That it hasn’t is emblematic of a system of government that whenever things go wrong, it is never be the fault of the people who made the political decisions. Let me list some of the more choice of those decisions

Two billion euro is likely to be lost on the nursing home overcharging scandal;
One billion euro is the likely end cost of the Residential Redress Scheme;
A national roads construction programme has accelerated in cost from 6 billion euro to a figure that’s close to 20 billion euro and rising;
·Management of that programme has seen the cost of building a kilometre of road double in a four-year period alone;
Over fifty million euro has been lost on electronic voting and an additional cost of one million a year has to be found for storing and maintaining these beauties;
Thirty million euro has been paid for a site to build a new prison and central mental hospital, at a price of over 200,000 euro an acre on land that is zoned for agricultural use, that does not even have a condition of sale on whether effective planning for the site can be gained on not;
Close on seven million euro has been spent on capital development works on a prison, Spike Island, that one government minister has decided to close for no reason other than a fit of pique;
Twenty million euro has been spent on acquiring and maintaining a number of buildings for the purposes of housing refugees and asylum seekers, none of which have ever been used; and
Over eight million euro has been paid out by the State for medical cards for people who were no longer alive.
These are just some of the over expenditures of this incompetent government. And this is a government made up of political parties that call the Green Party crazy. Taken together it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say that the mismanagement of this government, since its election in 1997, would total an entire year of government expenditure for this country.

The contract with the suppliers of the e-voting machines was amended to include a clause whereby the Government would pay for them even if they didn't work.

I won't even begin to comment on the Pat Mulcair - Bertie Bowl situation, other than to say it is only a matter of time before the truth comes out, and it won't look good for the PDs!

[Gladstone]

You mean the PDs who established the first department of the enviornment banned smoky coal and set up the epa...those pds? :P

The ones who introduced the min wage?

the ones who finally came up with a decent radiotheraphy plan?

Less steriotyping people don't judge parties by the propaganda of their opponents the greens don't want to destroy the economy and the PD's dont' want to privatise the air we breath.

I was just asking about the wisdom of the one thing Dan mentioned in the speach about corpo tax, I think he spoke quite well in it but I question the wisdom of a rise as I think it will bring little extra money and the business world will go "hey they are going in the UP direction now, this is a slippery slope"

[SPN]

set up the epa

Try dealing with the EPA and you will quickly reaise that it is a smokescreen. It is totally toothless and has to act within extremely hobbling legislation.

I have sat in their offices with a pocket full of mobile phones connected to various and assorted barristers - one for every BS stunt they tried to pull to prevent me gaining access to what should have been publicly available information.

I came out with everything I went in for, and feeling very happy that I wasn't paying for the Barristers.

(I think they ran out of legal advisors before I did! LOL!)

[stringjack]

I have sat in their offices with a pocket full of mobile phones connected to various and assorted barristers - one for every BS stunt they tried to pull to prevent me gaining access to what should have been publicly available information.

That's a pretty cool image.