The Greens - Lest We Forget

[ger12]

please note that it was SF bringing that case to the high court which was the cause of that election.
SF defending YOUR democracy- think about that.

The same SF that voted with FF/FG/Greens in the blanket bank guarantee?

The same party that believed in the flawed Oireachtas inquiry referendum which would have seen politicians decide on the rights of our citizens?

[ger12]

maybe , maybe not. no one really knows.
the only thing we DO know is that the greens were a big part of it.they killed the idea of a green party for 20 years.
and for what? mo money.
anyone got that gormless 'planet bertie' speach?

A big part of what exactly? Building up the property bubble? Running the Galway tent?

Don't worry though, whatever the Greens did while in government - like the 2010 Planning Act or the setting up of an independent inquiry into planning irregularities - are now being softened up (Planning Act) or have been shelved (planning irregularities inquiry). Mr Hogan has indeed been a busy Minister to date.

[gombeennation]

The same SF that voted with FF/FG/Greens in the blanket bank guarantee?

The same party that believed in the flawed Oireachtas inquiry referendum which would have seen politicians decide on the rights of our citizens?

jesus christ your worse than those "the depositors and bondholders have to be treated the same - lenihan told me so" nut cases.
SF along with everyone else voted for the garuntee BUT ..... BUT BUT BUT on the proviso that they agreed with the terms of the bailout.
you got that?
read it again.

ok - so when the terms of the bailout were released by FF - SF voted against the terms.

Dil ireann - Volume 664 - 17 October, 2008 - Approval of Credit Institutions (Financial Support) Scheme 2008: Motion.

and yes yes yes SF are a terrible bunch altogether - scum of the earth. how does it feel that they were the only party in the country to take the government to court over a matter of democracy ..... and won. how does that make you feel.

[gombeennation]

A big part of what exactly? Building up the property bubble? Running the Galway tent?

Don't worry though, whatever the Greens did while in government - like the 2010 Planning Act or the setting up of an independent inquiry into planning irregularities - are now being softened up (Planning Act) or have been shelved (inquiry). Mr Hogan has indeed been a busy Minister to date.

they were a part of backing bertie when he was telling lies in the enquiry. thus engendering a standard-free dail.
they could have pulled the plug on bertie. that could have changed the whole game.
its all ifs and buts - the only thing we KNOW is , the greens backed bertie - and bertie backed cowen and cowen backed us all into a corner.

[Dub guy]

Watching Crisis tonight prompted many thoughts.

Amongst them is a consideration of the greens and the extent of their culpability in the ruination of Ireland.

No-one can come close to FF - not just Cowen's term, but probably from Lynch onwards - but remember. In 2007, Bertie's Ard Fheis infamous address outlined the basis on which the greens entered Coalition.

Throughout the 4+ years of its existence, the greens not only propped up the government, they participated in and facilitated some of the most under-handed dealings ever entered into by those elected to represent and lead us.

For this they must be indicted and held responsible.

A hell of a price to pay for the ban on stag hunting.

Until they purge their party of all taints of gormley, Ryan et al they should never be allowed any semblence of power or influence again.

For a start, the previous Dail only lasted 3 and a half years. Where did you get the 4+ from ? They were only 6 TD's in reality FF had the lions's share of the power. The damage to our economy was done prior to the 2007 election. Sure we can debate the Bank Guarantee, NAMA etc. There are certainly questions that need to be answered about those decisions. But the fact remains the bubble was created from around 1999 to 2007 under the guidance of FF and the PD's. The Green party in fairness to them opposed the pro-developer policies, bad planning etc when they were in opposition.

[Mushroom]

The thing that really jarred with me in tonight's episode was seeing that cretin Gogarty juggling his young daughter on his knee at the Green Party's valedictory press conference. Hopefully, when (and if) he matures, he'll be man enough to apologise to her for using her as a prop - it was truly vomit-inducing.

[Mushroom]

The Green party in fairness to them opposed the pro-developer policies, bad planning etc when they were in opposition.

But no-one is criticising the GP for what it did while in opposition.

[loner]

they certainly backed willie odea when he was caught with the false affidavit in the high court.
that semi retarded goon ryan mumbling his way through his speech. lest we forget.

Yes that was probably the most hypocrytical speech ever made in Dail Eireann---the Messiah excelled himself.

[bye bye mubarak]

For a start, the previous Dail only lasted 3 and a half years. Where did you get the 4+ from ? They were only 6 TD's in reality FF had the lions's share of the power. The damage to our economy was done prior to the 2007 election. Sure we can debate the Bank Guarantee, NAMA etc. There are certainly questions that need to be answered about those decisions. But the fact remains the bubble was created from around 1999 to 2007 under the guidance of FF and the PD's. The Green party in fairness to them opposed the pro-developer policies, bad planning etc when they were in opposition.

Then the Greens came in to be a conscience in government, or so we all thought. Helping and defending O'Dea, refusing tto take a ministerial post, then taking a junior post, interferring in a Garda case, defending the refusal of a bye-election challanged in the court, supporting the corrupt ffers; not bad for such a short time with perks of the mercs.

[realistic1]

And thanks in part to the Eco Fascist traitors, these kids still won't be able to vote when they grow up into a dystopian nightmare.

No doubt a lot of the kids who took part in this, were the kids of Politicians and the wealthy, and will never have to emigrate be unemployed etc, etc.