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    Throughout the Greystones Harbour Public Private Partnership “PPP” Wicklow County Council and it’s private partner, Sispar, has held the public contemptuously at arms length, under the need-to know “commercially/market sensitive” pretext. They steadfastly refuse to disclose any information regarding the financial arrangements and the valuation placed on the public foreshore.

    There is now a growing body of knowledge stating that PPP's are very bad value for the taxpayer. Take a read of the following article which is very sobering indeed given the current Government practice of building everything by means of PPP's!

    False accounting disguises tax theft, charges George Monbiot.

    Public fraud initiative
    By George Monbiot


    Poor visibility corrupts; invisibility corrupts absolutely. The private finance initiative, which is the means by which billions of pounds worth of new public projects in the United Kingdom are now being funded, is doubly obscure: first because it is so complicated and appears so boring that few people have grasped its implications; second, because so many of the crucial details are hidden from public view by the blanket ban on disclosure known as "commercial confidentiality". But slowly a few are beginning to emerge. As they do so, they confirm the gravest allegations the programme's critics have made.

    In January, I suggested in the Guardian that public bodies were being forced by the government to rig the "public sector comparator", which shows whether or not privately financed schemes offer better value for money than conventional funding. Now that allegation has been corroborated. Two weeks ago, Jeremy Colman, the auditor-general at the national audit office, revealed that some of the comparators being used are "utter rubbish" and "utterly irrelevant". Public service managers know that they must show the government that their plans are cost-effective. "If the answer comes out wrong you don't get your project. So the answer doesn't come out wrong very often."

    They are rigging the comparators because the government has presented them with irreconcilable objectives. On the one hand it has told them, in the words of Alan Milburn, the secretary of state for health, that "it's PFI or bust": the only money the government will allow them to receive is money provided by the private sector. On the other hand it has insisted that private finance can be obtained only if it offers better value for money than public funding. Public servants are forced, in other words, to prove that private finance works.

    To help them out, the government has provided them with a means of falsifying their figures. It's an accounting device called "risk costing". In principle, when a consortium of private companies agrees to build a hospital or some schools for a public body, it acquires the risk that the project might fail. This risk is "costed" and becomes a key component of the value-for-money calculations.

    A recent paper by the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants (ACCA) warns that the costs of the principal risks (such as unanticipated expenses) have been exaggerated. The average cost over-run on public hospital building projects, for example, is 7 per cent. The private operators are allowed to claim a "risk" of 12.5 per cent, and this is likely to rise as a result of new guidance from the Treasury. By contrast, no risk costing whatsoever is added to the public sector comparator.

    Last month, the British Medical Journal (BMJ) published a paper showing how this "risk costing" has been used to distort the results. The government's own figures reveal that before "risk" was taken into account, the new hospital schemes the researchers studied would all have been built far more cheaply with public funds. When the "transferred risks" were costed, however, they were found miraculously to tilt the comparison in favour of private finance, in several cases by less than 0.1 per cent. Reading these figures, it becomes plain that the hospital trusts started with the desired results, and worked backwards until they found a risk costing which matched them.

    Ultimately, of course, even if the risk was assessed realistically, the entire exercise is a sham, for, rather than allow a public service to collapse, the government will bail out the private consortium which runs it, as Railtrack, the Channel tunnel builders, the passports office and the benefits agency have discovered.

    Fraudulent risk costing is not the only means by which private finance is made to look as if it works. As the ACCA points out, the government allows public bodies to reclaim the VAT on privately funded projects, but not on publicly backed schemes, thereby favouring private finance by 17.5 per cent. National Health Service (NHS) trusts have to pay the Treasury a 6 per cent "capital charge" on the buildings they own. Private builders have no such obligation. The government gives local authorities an annual grant of 11.5 per cent of the value of the Public Finance Initiative (PFI) schemes they commission, but there is no corresponding sweetener for publicly funded projects. Private financiers are permitted to use "discount rates" way out of line with inflation.

    This false accounting masks the appalling value for money offered by private finance. As the BMJ report shows, 39 per cent of the price of PFI hospitals is incurred by the extra cost of borrowing. Governments have a better credit rating than corporations, so they can borrow more cheaply. As interest is levied across the 25 or 30 years of the project, small differences in rates contribute vastly to the cost.

    So why is the government forcing public bodies to fleece the taxpayer? In 1997, it claimed that the purpose of the private finance initiative was to reduce government borrowing. But PFI does not reduce borrowing: instead it defers and extends it. In opposition, Labour was keenly aware of this deception. Alistair Darling, for example, observed that "apparent savings now could be countered by the formidable commitment on revenue expenditure in years to come." Mr Darling is now transport secretary, partly responsible for implementing Britain's most controversial PFI scheme: the handover of the London Underground. The public budget, moreover, has been in surplus throughout Labour's term in office: all our privately financed schemes could have been funded many times over from public accounts.

    This also disposes of the next excuse the government made for PFI: that it can commission more projects by this means than by public funding alone. Now ministers tell us that PFI makes sense because private managers are more efficient than civil servants. Unfortunately, the available evidence suggests that while they are extremely efficient at making money, they are rather less efficient at running public services. The first few PFI hospitals to open have all been beset by disasters caused by cost cutting: the Cumberland, the North Durham and the Hairmyers hospital in Strathclyde, for example, have been repeatedly flooded with sewage as a result of inadequate drainage systems.

    So only two possible explanations remain, neither of which could be said to reflect well upon this government. The first is that it is appeasing the corporate lobby groups, whose members are becoming wildly rich at public expense. The second is that it is deferring costs it would otherwise carry to future governments, enabling the chancellor, paradoxically, to sustain his reputation for prudence by maintaining a vast budget surplus. If the maturation of the schemes this government has commissioned coincides with either a recession or a serious budget deficit, then PFI has the potential to bankrupt the UK.

    This article contains nine serious and specific charges of public fraud and false accounting, commissioned and directed by the Treasury. So, as there is no other means of holding the government to account on this issue, let it take the form of a challenge. If these charges are false, I would appeal to the chancellor to repudiate them, preferably on the Guardian's pages. If he fails to do so, readers should conclude that he has no defence to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civilservant
    Quote Originally Posted by muiris
    Lennon,

    Unfortunately given the wicklow constiuency results it did not rate
    as a major issue in the county. Of the recent elected TD's only McManus
    is on record in her opposition to the development.
    Isn't it galling to think that if Evelyn Cawley had been elected as an Independent TD (she campaigned on the Greystones Harbour issue), Bertie would more than likely have been able to find money and solutions for Greystones Harbour in exchange for her support
    I was wondering how long it would be before the self same Ms Cawley got dragged into this. Lennon constantly defied logic prior to the election by pumping her credentials and the importance of Greystones. But she got 1400 votes which shows the views of not just the constituency but the sizeable Greystones electoral area to the situation.

    So lennon, take it handy, have a glass of Gaviscon. The people who voted for FF in Wicklow are not all developers, many are ordinary people who find the naysayers objections to economic progress ludicrous and as I indicated gently in the run up to the election people were fed up with nay sayers.
    I think it will be proved for time immemorial that the guys who lived in the trees in the glen of the downs did a massive disservice to normal objectors in Wicklow by their crazy disruption of a public project and ordinary people (99.99% of whom are NOT developers) will not allow that to happen again. Note that in Meath FF took 4 out of 6 seats despite the presence of the naysayers who have found a new home since they moved from the Glen Of the downs.

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    Cawley actually polled over 2200 1st Preferences and almost 50% of the voting people of Greystones voted for people against the harbour development. I understand that Joe Behan is also against the development so the %'s are much higher.

    I note that you have no comment on my comments on the PPP!

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    It is accepted in the accounting profession that PPP's are a means of shifting debt off the balance sheet through complex contractual arrangements. The Accounting Standards Board has noted that PPP's are simply 'an off-balance sheet fiddle'. This type of Enron accounting should be avoided. It seems that government ministers do not understand that risks involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Accountant
    It is accepted in the accounting profession that PPP's are a means of shifting debt off the balance sheet through complex contractual arrangements. The Accounting Standards Board has noted that PPP's are simply 'an off-balance sheet fiddle'. This type of Enron accounting should be avoided. It seems that government ministers do not understand that risks involved.
    Poor visibility corrupts; invisibility corrupts absolutely. Enron was indeed an American form of public private partnership where its assets and liabilities were hidden by being shifted off its balance sheet. The disastrous bankruptcy of Enron Corp. was a scandal of enormous proportions involving fraud, corruption and unethical practices. Have we learned nothing about the dangers? There is no visible accountability in the hidden PPP deal between Wicklow County Council and its Special Purpose Entity Sispar. What risks have the council taken? What value have they placed on the public beach given to the developer? This is certainly not value for money for the taxpayer. The PPP process is fundamentally flawed with the public sector comparator fudged to suit the PPP.

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    lennon less of the thesis and philosophy here. Christ some of your post s are so long winded that I doubt that anybody could be arsed reading them.To be honest posting from everybody else bar you has ceased .While I agree with your principle. Bombarding the thread with long winded facts and preaching to the converted is a waste of time and unlikely to be listened to by anybody.We'd be better off thrashing out the demerits and merits of this project as they stand and that would generate more debate and interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minister3
    lennon less of the thesis and philosophy here. Christ some of your post s are so long winded that I doubt that anybody could be arsed reading them.To be honest posting from everybody else bar you has ceased .While I agree with your principle. Bombarding the thread with long winded facts and preaching to the converted is a waste of time and unlikely to be listened to by anybody.We'd be better off thrashing out the demerits and merits of this project as they stand and that would generate more debate and interest.
    Sorry Minister for making some of my posts so long. I will keep them much shorter in future. The point I am trying to make is that the PPP process is not all it seems and potentially represents very bad value for the taxpayers. All this is hidden from public view. This concern applies to all PPPs and not just the Greystones Harbour PPP.

    With a Green Environment Minister the time is right for people to highlight this unsustainable method of Government funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lennon
    With a Green Environment Minister the time is right for people to highlight this unsustainable method of Government funding.
    What is the Irish Green Party policy regarding Public Private Partnerships?

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    Whatever FF tells them it is!
    Banned temporarily by politics.co.uk (ie this site) so as not to "offend" the Brits during Mrs. Windsor's visit.
    Still censored because I cannot start a thread!

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    Although I agree wholeheartedly with Lennon and his strongly held beliefs, methinks he has Communist tendencies.
    Perhaps he should change his username fron Lennon to Lenin?

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