Greens betray Tara for power - their 30 pieces of silver

[Insider2007]

The Irish Times this morning is reporting that the Greens have agreed to the M3 motorway going through the Tara-Skyrne Valley as planned, despite being outspoken in opposition to the route.

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/fro...302059242.html

Obviously we now know that the Greens are all mouth and no action. I transferred to them believing them to be a party of principle. Even though I disagreed with their negotiations with FF, I did count on they holding to their integrity at least until they got into government. However their willingness to sell Ireland's heritage to get their arses in mercs is sickening. We obviously have our new political Judases. I hope they enjoy their 30 pieces of silver. And then face the electoral wipe out they deserve.

[David Cochrane]

If this thread can *please* just be limited to talking about Tara, there won't be any DC crackdown.

Deal?

[pluralist]

Tara is a significant issue for me, but more significant still is a cast iron commitment to delivering on the rail transport agenda as set out in repeated GOVERNMENT plans.

If this is not present, and if we do not get the Transport Minister's post there is no way on earth I can vote for it.

[Auditor #9]

Pat Kenny was clearly intolerant of the tree-huggers on his radio prgrm some weeks ago now when talking about the M3 and I agreed with him then
then wavered because it is a sensitive site
but we need these roads far as I'm concerned. FFers like roads a lot - they are big, visible, obvious trophies. And is there much in Tara anyway? Anywhere we dig around this country if full of precious **** why should Tara be special?

Time to move on from the past other greens. Next it's skyscrapers in D4.

[Insider2007]

Tara is a significant issue for me, but more significant still is a cast iron commitment to delivering on the rail transport agenda as set out in repeated GOVERNMENT plans.

If this is not present, and if we do not get the Transport Minister's post there is no way on earth I can vote for it.

With only one departmental minister, and without even an agreement on which posts would be given (Jeez. How niave are the Greens not to nail that down before signing up to the agreement?) the odds are that there won't be a green Transport minister.

As to Tara, I am not a member of the Greens but until tonight I was what could be described as a fan from the outside. Going back on their word to go in with the FF-PD government was unsettling. But the developments on Tara are sickening, almost literally so. I actually thought until tonight that the Greens were a party of integrity. Now I feel duped. I feel now that FF and the Greens deserve each other. I never thought I would feel that way about the Greens. Moving that road is such an environmental no-brainer. It isn't a case of cancelling the road, just moving one section of it. But if the Greens don't have the balls to take a stance on that issue, they will deliver nothing in practice. I expected more of them.

[Insider2007]

Anywhere we dig around this country if full of precious **** why should Tara be special?

If you have to ask, you really haven't a clue about the location at all. The entire Tara-Skyrne Valley is an archaeological unit filled with sites that can only be understood, explored, and in the future potentially utilised for tourism purposes, as a collection. Running a massive motorway through what is believed to be the most sensitive archaological location in western Europe, and one of the most important worldwide, is madness. It involves in one action the greatest degree of environmental change in that sensitive location since the Ice Age, given the amount of earth works involved. It would create environmental pollution, transport pollution, noise pollution and light pollution at the most sensitive location imaginable.

The M3 is needed. The only issue is the location. It should have been planned to be around the valley. Running a motorway through that environment is the equivalent of running a motorway through Merrion Square and insisting that a six lane motorway would make no difference to the city's most famous Georgian square.

It is also an open secret that many property developers with FF connections and prominent places in the tribunals, have been buying up land alongside the proposed road for development purposes. One wonders whether a refusal to move the road really is about the concerns of commuters (if it was, they should be fasttracking the rail line to Navan. It isn't due to be open until two years after the next general election!) and more about ensuring certain FF developers are in a position to make a financial killing in rezoning along the route.

What has been going on in Meath is known. It has been suggested that in future years Meath will need its own Mahon tribunal to look into the shenanagans in the county. The M3 route is a part of that.

[Boss Croker]

If this thread can *please* just be limited to talking about Tara, there won't be any DC crackdown.

Deal?

If ony politics came in neat, little Moderator's boxes

[Boss Croker]

Ta-ra ra boom-dee-ay.... Ta-ra ra boom-dee-ay.... Ta-ra ra boom-dee-ay.... Ta-ra ra boom-dee-ay.... Ta-ra ra boom-dee-ay....

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[David Cochrane]

Boss - can you stop over-doing it with the big letters? If you can't say it in normal text......

[Auditor #9]

Anywhere we dig around this country if full of precious **** why should Tara be special?

If you have to ask, you really haven't a clue about the location at all. The entire Tara-Skyrne Valley is an archaeological unit filled with sites that can only be understood, explored, and in the future potentially utilised for tourism purposes, as a collection. Running a massive motorway through what is believed to be the most sensitive archaological location in western Europe, and one of the most important worldwide, is madness. It involves in one action the greatest degree of environmental change in that sensitive location since the Ice Age, given the amount of earth works involved. It would create environmental pollution, transport pollution, noise pollution and light pollution at the most sensitive location imaginable.

The M3 is needed. The only issue is the location. It should have been planned to be around the valley. Running a motorway through that environment is the equivalent of running a motorway through Merrion Square and insisting that a six lane motorway would make no difference to the city's most famous Georgian square.

It is also an open secret that many property developers with FF connections and prominent places in the tribunals, have been buying up land alongside the proposed road for development purposes. One wonders whether a refusal to move the road really is about the concerns of commuters (if it was, they should be fasttracking the rail line to Navan. It isn't due to be open until two years after the next general election!) and more about ensuring certain FF developers are in a position to make a financial killing in rezoning along the route.

What has been going on in Meath is known. It has been suggested that in future years Meath will need its own Mahon tribunal to look into the shenanagans in the county. The M3 route is a part of that.

I can almost hear you're breathless after that Insider. Can you tell me if this Stonehenge of Meath is of such International importance (which I'm sure it is btw) Why o why didn't we start preserving it twenty years ago?