Considering that the Uí Néill were Ard Ríthe for a continous 800 years (except for a period whan Brian Ború held the position), I would safely say you are talking out of your arse again delaad, when you say every 10 square miles had a High King.Originally Posted by delaad
Yes we had high kings, taoisigh, and various local kings all over. The difference with Tara is that it is not one site but a whole environment of sites, all of whom are according to evidence linked. Among other locations, one can look at a site in isolation. In Tara, one has to take Skyrne in the context of Tara, Tara in the context of monuments around Tara, etc etc. That is what I meant by the cathedral imagery. That entire valley is one unit, whereas the NRA and Cullen tried to spin it as though the Hill of Tara was one thing, Skyrne another, other sites something else, and none with any connection to each other. The NRA argument was that they were just running a roadway through a valley that had some monuments on each side. Put simply, they were arguing that the Hill of Tara was Christchurch Cathedral, Skyrne the old synod hall, and their motorway the road in between. In reality Tara is the high altar, Skyrne the Lady Chapel and their motorway bulldozed right though the centre of the building.Bah! Politicians! I was right all along! And Brian Boru was from CLARE!!I'm off to bed!
The importance about the Tara-Skyrne Valley is context. The valley is a unit, not isolated monuments.
Tara is The Site in Ireland. It is special, that's the point.
What does the Irish President spend their time doing. Work in progress
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How many people have visited Tara?
The political establishment lacks both vision and courage.
I understand the proposed route is further away from the hill than the existing one.If you have to ask, you really haven't a clue about the location at all. The entire Tara-Skyrne Valley is an archaeological unit filled with sites that can only be understood, explored, and in the future potentially utilised for tourism purposes, as a collection. Running a massive motorway through what is believed to be the most sensitive archaological location in western Europe, and one of the most important worldwide, is madness. It involves in one action the greatest degree of environmental change in that sensitive location since the Ice Age, given the amount of earth works involved. It would create environmental pollution, transport pollution, noise pollution and light pollution at the most sensitive location imaginable.
And?
There is the world of difference between the road that currently exists and what is proposed. The hint is in the diffeernt names for the proposed road name and the existing road name.
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I really thought the Greens would make headway on this issue. If they can't get a motorway re-routed then what will happen to their bigger policies. I just cannot believe they gave in on this. I really can't understand people questioning the importance of Tara. The rest of the world seems to understand it's importance. Mind you in this New Ireland to hell with history and culture just give us your Euros. We have gained new jobs and lost our souls. Unfortunately it will be our grandchildren that will look back in disbelief. People complained about the Taliban destroying ancient Buddhist images in Afghanistan. We have our own Taliban called the developers.. I am still sympathetic to the Green cause but totally gobsmacked not by their decision to go into government with FF but their lack of ability to get anything out of FF.
Auditor you are the worst kind of fool.
I was watching a BBC program on stonehenge the other day. Some guy in a helicopter showing pictures of the monument and desperately trying to convince us that it was an eery spiritual place that takes us back thousands of years... but no matter where they pointed the camera, in every angle, there was a congested road in the picture. It made the whole piece into one big joke. Stonehenge has been totally destroyed by the short sighted 'development at any cost' attitude.
FF are making exactly the same mistakes. I suppose it's not their fault, when your only principles are power and greed, you can't be blamed for being corrupt and short sighted. But the greens should know better. Their apparent acceptance of this travesty is very depressing, especially when you consider the enormous amount of work and dedication that grassroots activists have put into highlighting this issue, many of whom are some of the most ardent green party supporters.
Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.
If this is true, what an absolute disgrace.
I hope that there are some people with backbone who will take the necessary action if/when politics fails.
That said, FF must have put some serious pressure on the Greens over this.
The batch of cretins in power are fueled by more desperate stupidity than I had realised.
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