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    Green Party Poll Drop

    The Green Party campaign has been poor to date.

    The party will form part of the rainbow, but with a much smaller mandate than it would have hoped for.

    If the numbers don't stack up, heads will roll. If Government beckons, everything will be forgotten.
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    Greens need to be visible west of Oughterard

    Greens please get posters up in West Connemara. You are invisible west of Oughterard, and you can take plenty of votes out here from sympathetic residents. A team needs to be sent out to poster the towns and villages. Higgins has postered out here. So has Cox, so have SF.

    Niall O Brolchain has been visible out here in the last year at events, but a sweep of all the towns is essential to copperfasten the seat.
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    I really want to vote for my local Green Party candidate. I have met him on the campaign trail twice and he seems like nice, decent, honest guy. However, I refuse to vote for the Greens as I do not want to see FF back in power. All the poll results point to this being a possibility and I treasure my vote too much to use it to let FF back in again.

    Is Clever Trevor going to completely rule out FF before election day so I can give Greens my vote?[/img]

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    the poll slide for the greens is very worrying......its been shown by several polls from all companies

    ive said it a MILLION times.........there is a MASSIVE anti-fianna fail sentiment out there......and they are suffering because their leader and tds are refusing to rule out fianna fail - whereas fg and labour are benefitting

    and if they perish on this rock on the 24th then they will have themselves to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predictor
    I really want to vote for my local Green Party candidate. I have met him on the campaign trail twice and he seems like nice, decent, honest guy. However, I refuse to vote for the Greens as I do not want to see FF back in power. All the poll results point to this being a possibility and I treasure my vote too much to use it to let FF back in again.

    Is Clever Trevor going to completely rule out FF before election day so I can give Greens my vote?
    For the umpteenth time: It is not Trevor Sargent's decision who we enter coalition with, it is the membership's. And Trevor has made it quite clear on numerous occasions that the FG/Lab coalition is his clear preference and indeed he has also stated repeatedly that he would step down as leader rather than go into coalition with FF. Now Pat Rabbitte hasn't gone that far. And Labour are more likely to be in a position to put FF back in. Even on a great day for the Greens they won't have the numbers to put FF back based on the pasting the have waiting for them. The only party likely to have the numbers to put them back in is ironically, both of the main opposition parties.

    I wonder should we sticky this in the Green forum so people here might stop asking this question over and over and over and over.......

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    Sorry Gombeen Man but that is not at all satisfactory. It's like saying I'd rather a pint of Carlsberg but if they don't sell that, I'll take a pint of Budweiser instead.

    As voter, in posession of a very valuable vote, I want to vote against FF. But I also want to vote for the Greens. However, I think it shows a lack of leadership quality on behalf of Tervor Sargent if he can't completely rule out FF. I will not have my vote contimanated with Fianna Fail. I really really don't like them especially after giving them my No. 1 last time out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predictor
    I really want to vote for my local Green Party candidate. I have met him on the campaign trail twice and he seems like nice, decent, honest guy. However, I refuse to vote for the Greens as I do not want to see FF back in power. All the poll results point to this being a possibility and I treasure my vote too much to use it to let FF back in again.[/img]
    The only way to ensure that FF are not back in power is to vote FG. If that is the way you feel, go ahead.

    Here in Cork NC this is what FG are saying on the doors. A vote for them is the only way to keep FF out. But sure, if we can forget the civil war, arent they all the same.

    I like to see more from parties I support and from their candidates than simply not liking FF. I want to see what they are made of.

    The Greens clearly detest FF and were doing well out of their "non-aligned" stance until recently. However they have whimpered into the election content to let the Alliance for Change lead the way, content to sit back and make up the numbers.

    I think Trevor Sargent is happy to lead the Green Party into Government with the rainbow. But the way things are going it will be a reduced Green Party.

    Why not vote FG or Labour because the Green Party don't seem to stand for anything different anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Predictor
    However, I think it shows a lack of leadership quality on behalf of Tervor Sargent if he can't completely rule out FF.
    Really? You think he should appoint himself supreme dictator maybe and make a dogma of it? I don't think you understand the nature of the GP very well.
    The Green Party is a party with a firm belief in the priciples of grassroots democracy and decision-making at the lowest possible level. We only made the leap of actually having a leader in 2001. We don't go in for the cult of personality around the leader that other parties go for. And we certainly don't go in for him dictating the direction of the party for us.

    A motion was passed at the Ard-Fheis in 2005 to fight this campaign independently and Trevor Sargent is bound to accept that under party rules. So if you have a problem with that, I think you have a problem with our core principles. In which case I think you know what to do with your vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug Ruith
    Quote Originally Posted by Predictor
    Why not vote FG or Labour because the Green Party don't seem to stand for anything different anymore.
    The four main parties headline tax cuts. The Greens say services are more important.
    All the other parties take corporate donations. The Greens don't.
    Heard about climate change? It hasn't gone away you know.

    The two main blocs are neck and neck. That is why the Greens are getting squeezed.

    Some people here are accusing the Greens of not getting their message across. This is difficult to do with 4% of the media coverage and a fraction of the money the other five parties have.

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    as a pd (ok every1 hates me now) i actually like the greens!

    anyway we were once described as fianna fail's mudguard by some1!
    i would describe the greens as the rainbow's roof rack!

    that is if the polls show lab and fg have the numbers the greens are forgotten about by the contributors while if the figures don't add up they are suddenly added in!

    greens listen 2 some1 who has been in the business 22 yrs keep yer head down and work work!

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