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Thread: Gormley Confirms Existance of Rotation to Green NEC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    What's the difference between this and what we normally term a reshuffle?
    This deal kept all the Greens obedient as they were all getting a Ministership at some stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    No, it doesn't answer my question, which was as follows:
    What you normally term a reshuffle is not pre planned. It is an evolution of circumstances as illustrated by the present situation!

    The slime deal is a secret form of chicanery pre planned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    What's the difference between this and what we normally term a reshuffle?
    I don't believe for a moment that Ryan didn't know about this deal. Sources say that even the lowliest of Green Party members were aware of it but didn't think it would ever be enacted.

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    greengoose is correct.. cabint reshuffles are as result of past performances or lack of thereof , and are intended to give new impetus to a government,

    The greens rotation is sheely self serving, as the trust of it is to covet a cabinet seat irrespective of how well or poorly the incumbent is performing.

    It is certainly distasteful..... and the greens have the neck to preach to us all that the way government is conducted , is in need of reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose2 View Post
    What you normally term a reshuffle is not pre planned. It is an evolution of circumstances as illustrated by the present situation!

    The slime deal is a secret form of chicanery pre planned.
    So, a reaction to immediate, short-term circumstances is, in some way, ethically superior and supportive of more efficient government than a planned re-organisation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    So, a reaction to immediate, short-term circumstances is, in some way, ethically superior and supportive of more efficient government than a planned re-organisation
    No. It is not planned re-organisation and well you know it! Good teams are built up and as the French are wont to say "on ne change pas une equipe gagnant" or one never changes a winning team. Even subs are deeply involved in the affairs of the team. The government team don't even understand what they read from their prepared speeches so that's a non runner!
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    Shuffling must be banned it is most annoying

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose2 View Post
    No. It is not planned re-organisation and well you know it! Good teams are built up and as the French are wont to say "on ne change pas une equipe gagnant" or one never changes a winning team. Even subs are deeply involved in the affairs of the team. The government team don't even understand what they read from their prepared speeches so that's a non runner!
    Not at all - as any football manager will tell you it is the quality of the squad rather than the first 15 that wins big competitions. Well planned utilisation of all available talent is essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    So, a reaction to immediate, short-term circumstances is, in some way, ethically superior and supportive of more efficient government than a planned re-organisation
    Please do not feed the troll. Troll is perfectly intelligent and realises the difference between cosy secret deals and genuine reshuffles. Said troll is only looking for a rise.
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    This is all purely academic. Cowen is incapable of doing a full reshuffle, as that would involve making decisions.

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