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Thread: Trevor Sargent in hot water over headed notepaper letter to Garda

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    im saying tds are tds
    I can't disagree with that. TDs are indeed TDs.

    Good call!
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    I hear that Trevor gave his €47k going away money to the SVdeP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    I hear that Trevor gave his €47k going away money to the SVdeP.
    I heard it was going to victim support - Limerick Branch.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    I hear that Trevor gave his €47k going away money to the SVdeP.
    That's pretty amazing. Fair play to him.
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    down to their level and then beat you with experience.

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    Prosecution of Offences Act, 1974

    6.—(1) ( a ) Subject to the provisions of this section it shall not be lawful to communicate with the Attorney General or an officer of the Attorney General, the Director or an officer of the Director the Acting Director, a member of the Garda Síochána or a solicitor who acts on behalf of the Attorney General in his official capacity for the Director in his official capacity, for the purpose of influencing making of a decision to withdraw or not to initiate criminal proceedings or any particular charge in criminal proceedings.
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    ( b ) If a person referred to in paragraph (a) of this subsection becomes of opinion that a communication is in breach of that paragraph, it shall be the duty of the person not to entertain the communication further.
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    (2) ( a ) This section does not apply to—
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    (i) communications made by a person who is a defendant or a complainant in criminal proceedings or believes that he is likely to be a defendant in criminal proceedings, or
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    (ii) communications made by a person involved in the matter either personally or as legal or medical adviser to a person involved in the matter or as a social worker or a member of the family of a person involved in the matter.
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    ( b ) In this subsection "member of the family" means wife, husband, father, mother, grandfather, grandmother, stepfather, stepmother, son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, stepson, stepdaughter, brother, sister, half-brother, half-sister, a person who is the subject of, or in whose favour there is made, an adoption order under the Adoption, Act 1952 and 1964.
    Prosecution of Offences Act, 1974, Section 6

    Seems pretty much cut and dried. At a stretch TS might have claimed he was involved in the matter 'personally' as the TD representing the community.

    He may not have been aware he was breaking the law when he made representations on behalf of one of his constituents but unfortunately for TS ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cochrane View Post
    Folks,

    This is a photo I've just taken of part of page 3 of today's Evening Herald.



    You'll note a few things

    1. It's on Green Party/Constituency notepaper

    2. It's dated last week, Sargent claimed he had no recollection of this matter except when reminded of the letters last year.

    3. But this the important thing, look above and beside the date and you'll see hand-written codes. These appear to be Garda codes.

    Though FF deny being the leaker and seem to be believed it's perfectly possible that they caused the letter to be leaked by a third party, I suppose.

    So I think we can rule out a leak on the Greens side. Either this was leaked by the Gardai, or they gave it to someone and they leaked it.

    This is exceptionally serious.

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    Though FF deny being the leaker and seem to be believed it's perfectly possible that they caused the letter to be leaked by a third party, I suppose.

    This comment go mixed up in David's contribution, unaccountably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl View Post
    You want to write Willie into the history books already after his smear on a Sinn Fein opponent, Anybody with a sense of decency was shocked by the appalling behaviour of the government in the Dail last week
    Far more were shocked at the appalling behaviour of the opposition, as shown in Sunday Independent's poll.

    I'm sure in the fullness of time, the good name, or otherwise of the Shinner in question will become public knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by petervalhala View Post
    Far more were shocked at the appalling behaviour of the opposition, as shown in Sunday Independent's poll.

    I'm sure in the fullness of time, the good name, or otherwise of the Shinner in question will become public knowledge
    Have you got any decency in your bones?? The behaviour of FF people were despicable and downright nasty in the Dail and the aftermath as well in particular D Ahern and also O Dea as well.

    Note that O Dea did not waive his ' golden' handshake as T Sargent did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disabled student View Post
    Have you got any decency in your bones?? The behaviour of FF people were despicable and downright nasty in the Dail and the aftermath as well in particular D Ahern and also O Dea as well.

    Note that O Dea did not waive his ' golden' handshake as T Sargent did.
    No where near as nasty as FG knowingly briefing journalists with false information purely to damage a good man's reputation.

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