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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    And how do I cash my pay cheque next Friday?

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    NIB/ Ulster bank/ Bank of Scotland/ Credit Union/ Post Office
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digout View Post
    Dont use a bankrupt bank.
    There isn't one.

    That is the f**king problem!

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    "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    There isn't one.

    That is the f**king problem!

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    Incorrect, Halifax are fine, so are Rabo. Ulster bank are sound also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digout View Post
    Incorrect, Halifax are fine, so are Rabo. Ulster bank are sound also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    And how do I cash my pay cheque next Friday?

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    i' m sure your employer no longer banks with any of the irish banks anymore,they are not the only banks in town ,why can't people get it through their heads, no one has been putting their money in to these banks for over a year now, the state has been subsidising them, the government stuck its nose into a private business and now everyone is paying for it. if they had left well enough alone the markets would have let them sink or swim,once the government got involved noone was going to touch these banks,let fianna fail and the greens put up their own assets as security for nama

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    If you don't take the property loans out of the retail banks and building societies, where they should never have been in the first place, nobody will lend money to the Banks, and they won't be able to lend to the wider economy.

    Fine Gael have one solution, which Karl Whelan rubbished as "a recipe for chaos", and which both Garret Fitzgerald and Alan Dukes rolled their eyes at.

    Labour want to do NAMA backwards.


    It is a great pity that we have ended up in this place, but NAMA is the least-worst way to fix the problem.

    If you have a better solution, then lets hear it. (and I have been asking you this for well over a year now)

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    Do you actually understand what you are posting. Where should these loans have been?

    Why did the Banks say that they NAMA would not cause them to lend to the wider economy?

    We own these loans now and cannot afford them. Do you think that this is where they should be? Why should we be responsible for debts we never accrued yet not benefit from profits that were only paid to Bank executives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digout View Post
    Incorrect, Halifax are fine, so are Rabo. Ulster bank are sound also.
    You are joking?

    Halifax and Ulster are both on life support from the UK Government via their parents Lloyds and RBS.

    Rabo can't get out of Ireland fast enough.


    Don't get me wrong, as I said back in 2008, I'd be more than happy to see the Irish Banks gone, but the difficulty is that we need to have a new Banking system in place before that happens.

    There is an opportunity to do something creative when the guarantee expires, but the Department of Finance are not known for their creativity (no matter who is in Government).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPB View Post
    Do you actually understand what you are posting. Where should these loans have been?

    Why did the Banks say that they NAMA would not cause them to lend to the wider economy?

    We own these loans now and cannot afford them. Do you think that this is where they should be? Why should we be responsible for debts we never accrued yet not benefit from profits that were only paid to Bank executives?
    If you can't be bothered to construct sentences using proper English how am I supposed to figure out what your point is?

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    "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    You are joking?

    Halifax and Ulster are both on life support from the UK Government via their parents Lloyds and RBS.

    Rabo can't get out of Ireland fast enough.


    Don't get me wrong, as I said back in 2008, I'd be more than happy to see the Irish Banks gone, but the difficulty is that we need to have a new Banking system in place before that happens.

    There is an opportunity to do something creative when the guarantee expires, but the Department of Finance are not known for their creativity (no matter who is in Government).

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    Those banks are fine. If you wanted the native banks gone, they why do your lot give them our money? FF-Lite is all you lot are.

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    This article gives a good overview of the reality of the situation

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    "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte

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