Green Party Membership ... 500 Greens leave but overall membership is increasing???

[OceanFrog]

Former Green Party member Chris O'Leary has just said on Newstalk that over 500 former Green Party members have left the party, yet overall membership of the Green Party has increased.

So who are all these people joining the Green Party?

Soubresauts is one of the founders of the Irish Green Party. He puts this increased membership to an increasing number of "plants" and "entryists" entering the Greens (his post on this below).

I believe him. I've seen this with my own eyes ... good, genuine Greens leaving the party, and chancers, spivs, and FF/PD's joining.

A few people here have touched on the real answer to the title question. It was a combination of plants/entryists (some of them exerting extraordinary influence on Gormley & co), ex-PDs, PD-minded chancers, and a few FFers probably, all of whom joined after the Greens took six seats in the 2002 general election. Why didn't the Greens go into coalition in 2002? They could have if they really wanted to. But they still had an attachment to their principles and policies then.

After 2002, the Greens were so swept up in their sense of power that they were careless about who joined. And the wrong people joined, and started throwing their weight about in the party. Gormley & Sargent were so spineless and so eager to get into government that they found it easy to cave in to those vocal unGreen newbies, and everything could be excused by the need to "save the world". Once they started lying and dissembling they couldn't stop. Green policies (carefully developed over many years) became irrelevant, or were abruptly deleted/changed to suit FF. Soon it became easy to ignore the core principles too...

Now it has become a case of "four legs good, two legs better".

How to destroy a party in one easy lesson.

Soubresauts has got this exactly right. He is in an excellent position to see exactly what is happening, and my own personal experience bears this out.

Green Party membership increasing? Yes, definitely. But only becuase of all the FFers, PD's, plants, entryists, spivs, and chancers joining the Green Party these days.



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[nonpartyboy]

Because of the democratic nature of the greens packing it full of fifth columnists can certainly be the difference between the government standing or falling.

[goosebump]

Genital warts treatment

8/10 Trolls recommend it.

[OceanFrog]

Genital warts treatment

8/10 Trolls recommend it.

Spoken like a true FFer, PD, plant, entryist, spiv, and/or chancer.




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[Digout]

Spoken like a true FFer, PD, plant, entryist, spiv, and/or chancer.




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Spoken like John Gormleys gimp.

[Congalltee]

So why don't all the anti-FF spivs/chancers join the Green Party and vote them out of Government. 86% said yes, so 500 would be needed to tip the balance.
Over 16, after 6 months, and not a member of another party and €20 gets you a vote.

Join / Get involved / Home - Green Party / Comhaontas Glas

[EoinMn]

Why didn't the Greens go into coalition in 2002? They could have if they really wanted to

They weren't needed and weren't asked.

[EoinMn]

So why don't all the anti-FF spivs/chancers join the Green Party and vote them out of Government. 86% said yes, so 500 would be needed to tip the balance.
Over 16, after 6 months, and not a member of another party and €20 gets you a vote.

Join / Get involved / Home - Green Party / Comhaontas Glas

They'd prefer to whinge on p.ie.

[DCon]

Recently spotted at a Green Party convention:

[DCon]

So why don't all the anti-FF spivs/chancers join the Green Party and vote them out of Government. 86% said yes, so 500 would be needed to tip the balance.
Over 16, after 6 months, and not a member of another party and €20 gets you a vote.

Join / Get involved / Home - Green Party / Comhaontas Glas

Do you think this is democratic?

Do you agree with FFers joining the Greens so that they can vote for FF-friendly policies?