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Thread: Green Party delegate fails to get elected to committee of the European Green Party

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    Irish Green Party delegates have failed to be elected to the committee before. There are a limited number of places, and only a handful of countries can hope to have a delegate elected. And, moreover, countries with larger numbers of Green voters have a better chance because it's not one country one vote.

    Still waiting for evidence that Greens from outside England share Derek Wall's idiosyncratic views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earnest View Post
    Still waiting for evidence that Greens from outside England share Derek Wall's idiosyncratic views.
    And I'm still waiting for someone to provide one single shred of evidence about what zeleneye claimed in post no. 2 above ... that "all European Greens" except a certain number in the GPEW support the Irish Greens.

    Do you have any evidence to support zeleneye's claim earnest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandar View Post
    I acted as a teller for the Lib dems at the last british local elections...there was a UK green doing it for his party,...he spent a lot of time talking about how much the irish greens had let the rest of them down
    The Greens in the UK live in a parallel universe. Its good to see them getting elected to the European Parliament, but a Green Party that exists in a country which is about to build 7 new nuclear reactors can only be described as a catastrophic failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    The Greens in the UK live in a parallel universe. Its good to see them getting elected to the European Parliament, but a Green Party that exists in a country which is about to build 7 new nuclear reactors can only be described as a catastrophic failure.
    How would you describe a Green Party that exists in a country where there is hare coursing, fox hunting, incineration, NAMA, the building of a motorway through the Tara Valley, and the import of electricity from the UK generated by the very same nuclear reactors you mention above ?

    A roaring success?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earnest View Post
    Still waiting for evidence that Greens from outside England share Derek Wall's idiosyncratic views.
    I think you will have to wait a long time for that...because they don't from what I have been told.

    A lot of the European Green parties have been in government and so realise the painful nature of the compromise that this reality entails in order to get policies implemented.

    The GPEW has yet to get a politician elected to parliament. Hopefully, Caroline Lucas might change that in the next election. It will be interesting to see if and how the party evolves after that. It will certainly involve a reality check for a lot of members...including plenty I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeleneye View Post
    A lot of the European Green parties have been in government and so realise the painful nature of the compromise that this reality entails in order to get policies implemented.
    The Irish Green Party have not compromised.

    They have totally capitulated to FF to the point where they are now indistinguishable from FF.

    And what's worse they have almost totally failed to get any policies implemented. Can anyone name even one Green fingerprint on NAMA?

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    well to call the greens in ireland idiosyncratic is to be very genrous indeed to them...

    what do you call a green party thats apart of a government which builds on tara, has flourtuiisdation of water despite prtomisding not to, supports a party which is hostorically corrupt etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanFrog View Post
    How would you describe a Green Party that exists in a country where there is hare coursing, fox hunting, incineration, NAMA, the building of a motorway through the Tara Valley, and the import of electricity from the UK generated by the very same nuclear reactors you mention above ?

    A roaring success?
    That would be funny if it wasn't entirely true.

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    Before I started haunting the GP forum to try to get the party to give up NAMA I was not familiar with the list of policy reversals. I knew about the volte face on the EU which I found a bit eerie. Overnight John Gormley totally reversed his position. It was like an alien had possessed him.
    But when you see the full list of u-turns by the leadership you have to wonder.
    Were the leadership really serious about many of these issues?
    No wonder so many members have left.

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