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    Bhí mé i dteagmháil le daoine i Oifig an Choimisinéir Teanga agus sheol mé pictiúr chucu de chomharthaí ó Uiscebhealaí Éireann ar an gCanáil Ríoga. Dúirt an bainisteoir ansin go bhfuair siad gearán eile fúthu an tseachtain seo chaite. Inseoidh mé daoibh tuilleadh faoin scéal nuair a bheidh aiseolais uathu arís!
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    Maith an fear!

    An bhfuil nasc 'ad chuig an bpictiúr a sheol tú?

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    Sheol mé r-phost dóibh leis an pic thíos..



    Uiscrian nó Uiscerian?
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    Mar eolas

    They are after the wrong man. Howlin had nothing to do with the decision to change the Irish text to italics, which occurred in 1989, under the watch of Padraig Flynn and was implemented by Regulation 2 of the Road Traffic (Signs) (Amendment) Regulations, 1988:

    Subject to the provisions of sub-paragraph (b) place-names on all informative signs provided after 1st January, 1989 shall be shown in italic letters in Irish and in Roman letters in English and where the spelling of a place-name is similar in both languages an Irish inscription in italic letters only need be shown on the sign

    The history of this is, the original 1926 Regulations provided for the Irish text to be in Gaelic script (not explicitly stated in the Regulations, but made clear from the illustrations). The 1956 Regulations changed this to the form most older readers will be familiar with, the Irish text being in the Roman alphabet, all caps, but smaller than the English text. There are still quite a few of these signs in situ on rural roads (and even in Dublin city - there will a few in situ at the junction of Infirmary Road and the North Circular last time I checked) if you know where to look.

    The "new" signs, based on the Warboys Committee designs from the UK, were introduced in 1977 under Sylvester Barrett and initially used mixed case Transport for the Irish text and all caps Transport for the English text. Why they capitalized the English, I'm not clear since this was obviously not part of the Warboys Committee designs, in which capitals should only be used for Superdestinations (compass points, like The NORTH, The SOUTH, or, oddly, SCOTLAND). The original signs were actually a lot closer to the UK design and part of me thinks the slight redesign they got in 1989 was simply to make them look less British. There were other tweaks made too, the borders (which were originally the same as the UK design) were changed to the weird framed version we use now and there were other design tweaks too.

    The 1996 TSM did not make any changes as to how Irish was treated on road signs, although we did abolish superdestinations at that point. The biggest change at that stage was the introduction of the "Guildford Rules" (patching of destinations - before that only road numbers had been patched) although that had already been informally in use, I think the first road I saw it used on was the M4 Leixlip-Kilcock motorway at the terminal junctions and roads directly off it.

    The 1996 TSM is very similar to the UK TSM of the same era, even the chapter numbers and headings are the same. They basically tweaked it for Irish use and I doubt many if any graphic designers were involved on the Irish side.
    Bilingual Road Signs in Ireland - Page 9 - boards.ie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloch na Rón View Post
    Sheol mé r-phost dóibh leis an pic thíos..



    Uiscrian nó Uiscerian?
    Ní dóibh liom go mba chóir go mbeadh an Ghaeilge nó an Bhéarla scríofa i gcló trom áfach! Ba chóir go mbeadh siad mar an gcéanna!


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    GRMA le haghaidh an t-eolais!

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    Bhí agallamh an-greanmhar ar An Glór Gaelach ar Raidió na Life ansin le an láithreoir Paula Melvin agus Dessie Ellis. Labhair Dessie Ellis ar feadh 3 nóiméad faoin mótarbhealach an A5 agus nuair a cuireadh ceisteanna air faoi ceist comharthaí bóithre agus na Gaeilge lean sé ar aghaidh ag caint faoin A5!!! Bhí an cuma air gur nár thuig sé ceard a bhí an t-agallamh i gceist!!! Bhí sé an-greanmhar!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren J. Prior View Post
    Bhí agallamh an-greanmhar ar An Glór Gaelach ar Raidió na Life ansin le an láithreoir Paula Melvin agus Dessie Ellis. Labhair Dessie Ellis ar feadh 3 nóiméad faoin mótarbhealach an A5 agus nuair a cuireadh ceisteanna air faoi ceist comharthaí bóithre agus na Gaeilge lean sé ar aghaidh ag caint faoin A5!!! Bhí an cuma air gur nár thuig sé ceard a bhí an t-agallamh i gceist!!! Bhí sé an-greanmhar!!!
    Tagaim leat, a dharren.

    Is iomaí poiliteoirín atá greannmhar, monuar!!

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    Sheol mé r-phost chuig Timmy Dooley TD an Urlabhraí Iompair de chuid Fhianna Fáil ar an Aoine nó Sathairn faoin gceist. Ní tháinig sé ar ais chugam fós. Iniseoidh mé daíobh má thagann sé ar ais chugam!

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