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    joemoran joemoran is offline

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    Massive Roma Gang Welfare Fraud in UK

    "Foreign criminals are trafficking children as young as three months old into Britain and using them to defraud the benefits system of millions of pounds, a Sunday Times investigation has found.
    Children are taken from their families, brought to Britain and used for fraudulent benefit claims involving forged immigration documents and employment records.
    In many cases the children are trafficked with the complicity of their parents. They are trained in street crime and placed with unrelated adults to enable fake benefit claims to be paid into accounts controlled by the trafficker.
    nemployed Romanians arriving in the UK are not typically entitled to benefits, but the gangs forge documents providing false work histories and obtain National Insurance numbers. The children are used to claim additional housing benefit, tax credits and child benefit. They can also be presented to council officials or benefit investigators conducting checks."
    Gangs import children for benefit fraud - Times Online

    Under strict rules imposed when Romania and Bulgaria joined the European Union in January 2007, new arrivals to Britain from those countries are typically unable to claim benefits for themselves or their children.
    Claims can, however, be made by the self-employed who have National Insurance numbers and by those who have worked in the country for 12 months.
    The Romanian gangs use a variety of documents to prove adults are eligible for benefits and then use the trafficked children in this country to boost the claims.
    Tandarei: The faraway town fat on UK benefit fraud - Times Online

    Little doubt the same gangs have targeted Ireland with Romanians standing just behind Nigerians in the foreign nationals claiming rent allowance. Meanwhile our treacherous media and cowardly politicians refuse to move against the Roma gangs who flood our streets with street beggars and those engaged in distraction theft and other street crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joemoran View Post
    "Foreign criminals are trafficking children as young as three months old into Britain and using them to defraud the benefits system of millions of pounds, a Sunday Times investigation has found.
    Children are taken from their families, brought to Britain and used for fraudulent benefit claims involving forged immigration documents and employment records.
    In many cases the children are trafficked with the complicity of their parents. They are trained in street crime and placed with unrelated adults to enable fake benefit claims to be paid into accounts controlled by the trafficker.
    nemployed Romanians arriving in the UK are not typically entitled to benefits, but the gangs forge documents providing false work histories and obtain National Insurance numbers. The children are used to claim additional housing benefit, tax credits and child benefit. They can also be presented to council officials or benefit investigators conducting checks."
    Gangs import children for benefit fraud - Times Online

    Under strict rules imposed when Romania and Bulgaria joined the European Union in January 2007, new arrivals to Britain from those countries are typically unable to claim benefits for themselves or their children.
    Claims can, however, be made by the self-employed who have National Insurance numbers and by those who have worked in the country for 12 months.
    The Romanian gangs use a variety of documents to prove adults are eligible for benefits and then use the trafficked children in this country to boost the claims.
    Tandarei: The faraway town fat on UK benefit fraud - Times Online

    Little doubt the same gangs have targeted Ireland with Romanians standing just behind Nigerians in the foreign nationals claiming rent allowance. Meanwhile our treacherous media and cowardly politicians refuse to move against the Roma gangs who flood our streets with street beggars and those engaged in distraction theft and other street crime.
    sure our media don't seem to know the difference between roma and romanian. they interchange the two regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joemoran View Post
    "Foreign criminals are trafficking children as young as three months old into Britain and using them to defraud the benefits system of millions of pounds, a Sunday Times investigation has found.
    Children are taken from their families, brought to Britain and used for fraudulent benefit claims involving forged immigration documents and employment records.
    In many cases the children are trafficked with the complicity of their parents. They are trained in street crime and placed with unrelated adults to enable fake benefit claims to be paid into accounts controlled by the trafficker.
    nemployed Romanians arriving in the UK are not typically entitled to benefits, but the gangs forge documents providing false work histories and obtain National Insurance numbers. The children are used to claim additional housing benefit, tax credits and child benefit. They can also be presented to council officials or benefit investigators conducting checks."
    Gangs import children for benefit fraud - Times Online

    Under strict rules imposed when Romania and Bulgaria joined the European Union in January 2007, new arrivals to Britain from those countries are typically unable to claim benefits for themselves or their children.
    Claims can, however, be made by the self-employed who have National Insurance numbers and by those who have worked in the country for 12 months.
    The Romanian gangs use a variety of documents to prove adults are eligible for benefits – and then use the trafficked children in this country to boost the claims.
    Tandarei: The faraway town fat on UK benefit fraud - Times Online

    Little doubt the same gangs have targeted Ireland with Romanians standing just behind Nigerians in the foreign nationals claiming rent allowance. Meanwhile our treacherous media and cowardly politicians refuse to move against the Roma gangs who flood our streets with street beggars and those engaged in distraction theft and other street crime.

    Must be smart kids. How do you train a three month old in street crime? Do they rent them out? I'll take a half dozen of the little ninjas
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    JCSkinner JCSkinner is offline

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    They shouldn't be getting any benefits full stop.
    The Brits are mental giving these parasites anything. It only encourages more of them.
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    I thought you can claim for child resident in another state, so there is no need to traffic children into Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redpath View Post
    Must be smart kids. How do you train a three month old in street crime? Do they rent them out? I'll take a half dozen of the little ninjas
    3 month old babies make fantastic begging tools. Most effective, particularly outside the Mater Hospital or John's Lane Church. The Roma women going up and down O'Connell Street shoving babies into people's faces and demanding money have a great dexterity in shoving the baby forward with one hand, while using the other to extend the coffee cup. Mustn't give out about it though, it is their culture. Asking the Gardai to do anything about it would be racist.

    And asking the politicians for the General Scheme for Criminal Justice (Public Order)(Amendment) Bill be published and implemented to stop begging is quite fascistic and proves you are a Nazi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euroboy View Post
    I thought you can claim for child resident in another state, so there is no need to traffic children into Ireland.


    Workers only I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euroboy View Post
    I thought you can claim for child resident in another state, so there is no need to traffic children into Ireland.
    From the article:
    "In theory, child benefit and tax credits for children can be claimed even if the children are not in the country. However, the presence of the trafficked child means extra housing benefit and additional tax credits, and helps if any spot checks are conducted by council officials or benefit investigators.

    Many of the families who have had their claims rubber-stamped by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) and HM Revenue & Customs have never worked in this country and are not entitled to benefits. Rudimentary checks on documents are partly blamed for the problem, along with the chaos that has bedevilled the tax credit system since its inception.

    The crime is relatively risk-free and relies on a simple formula: the more people the gang trafficks, the more benefits they get."

    Tandarei: The faraway town fat on UK benefit fraud - Times Online
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    Quote Originally Posted by euroboy View Post
    I thought you can claim for child resident in another state, so there is no need to traffic children into Ireland.
    same article

    In theory, child benefit and tax credits for children can be claimed even if the children are not in the country. However, the presence of the trafficked child means extra housing benefit and additional tax credits, and helps if any spot checks are conducted by council officials or benefit investigators.
    There was a immigrant woman in London convicted last year of attempting to buy a child to jump the housing list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    There was a immigrant woman in London convicted last year of attempting to buy a child to jump the housing list.

    The social housing issue here has yet to come to the boil but when it does we can expect some fireworks.
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