IDF kill Palestinians for their organs: Sweden's Aftonbladet

[Eldritch]

Also there are no 'palestinians' there is no palestinian culture or language and the palestinian flag is just a slightly modified version of the Jordanian flag ffs.

"There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough".
- Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East"

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council

Also do you where the term Palestine comes from? The Romans wanted to erase the name of Israel and Judah from the face of the Earth, so that there would be no memory of the country that belonged to that rebel people. So Hadrian named it 'palestine' after the philistines; an extinct people. As for the ethnic cleansing silliness:

"Oh, but certainly in Jerusalem the Arabs are getting pushed out of their neighborhoods and ethnically cleansed, right? Sorry, once again those pesky facts get in the way:

1946: Population of Jerusalem --34,000 Muslims, 31,000 Christians (probably not all Arab), 99,000 Jews

1967: 58,000 Muslims, 13,000 Christians, and 197,000 Jews

2000: 197,000 Muslims, 14,000 Christians and 440,000 Jews

Once again, the Muslim population more than tripled since Israel re-unified the city!"

http://richmond.indymedia.org/newswi...5243/index.php

[Eldritch]

Oh yeah and the guy you CnPed from? He supports terrorism:

"As I understand the UN charter, everybody has the right to defend their homes against aggression."

That's one of the oldest pro-hamas tricks in the book used by the revolting CAIR constantly, so you used a post by a fellow anti-semite to justify your own anti-semitic bigotry; lovely.

[Eldritch]

And the left doesn't have any principles; they (like the right wingers) have a long history of supporting tyranny, terrorists (the provos are very popular among leftists) etc.

[Riadach]

What does it matter if Palestinians have only obtained an awareness of national identity over the past 100 years or so? Surely what is important is that they want a state now, and more importantly that they do not want to be governed by Israel? The arguments you put forward are ridiculous.

[The_SR]

What does it matter if Palestinians have only obtained an awareness of national identity over the past 100 years or so? Surely what is important is that they want a state now, and more importantly that they do not want to be governed by Israel? The arguments you put forward are ridiculous.

The irony of a Zionist using this line to deny the Palestinian's rights is completly lost on him.

[PrinceMax]

The editor of the story a man by the name of Donald Bostrom has said on Israel radio that he hadn't a clue whether the story was true or not.

Israel Furious Over Swedish Newspaper Article - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

Poor poor journalistic standards though that is not surprising from the Swedish left.

You don't know anything about journalistic standards if you're using a foxnews article to prove a point.

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When reading this thread, why are there so many mentions of the nazis and the holocaust? This has absolutely nothing to do with the holocuast.

[yanshuf]

What does it matter if Palestinians have only obtained an awareness of national identity over the past 100 years or so? Surely what is important is that they want a state now, and more importantly that they do not want to be governed by Israel? The arguments you put forward are ridiculous.

No, tey want to govern Israelis, or even to get rid of all the Jews between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean sea.

They have already three entities: two free of Israelis states - Jordan and Gaza, and one free of Israelis entity that wants to make sure Jews have no state.

And furthermore they have two peoples: one the PLO people and another the Hamas people!!!

What does it matter if Palestinians have only obtained an awareness of national identity over the past 100 years or so?

It's cardinal if it comes out that they decided to be a nation only to prevent the Jews from having their own state.

That's why under the Jordanian regime (surprise surprise) they never revolted against the regime, but established the PLO so they could launch terror attacks against Israel of pre-1967!!!

Only from 1967 on they remembered they were a nation, lol!

[Riadach]

No, tey want to govern Israelis, or even to get rid of all the Jews between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean sea.

They have already three entities: two free of Israelis states - Jordan and Gaza, and one free of Israelis entity that wants to make sure Jews have no state.

And furthermore they have two peoples: one the PLO people and another the Hamas people!!!

In fairness, if you do not grant them independence, demographic changes will ensure that they will indeed govern the Israelis, and change the character of Israel forever. Unless of course you keep them prisoners of Israel for eternity. Is that the plan?

It's cardinal if it comes out that they decided to be a nation only to prevent the Jews from having their own state.

Regardless of whether that is how it began in the beginning, it doesn't alter the fact that most Palestinians do indeed want an independent state in the Middle East, and many are willing to recognise Israel's existence for that purpose.

That's why under the Jordanian regime (surprise surprise) they never revolted against the regime, but established the PLO so they could launch terror attacks against Israel of pre-1967!!!

You mean the Israel that most of them had been driven out of? That had confiscated their lands under the various absentee lands acts and refused them right of return? Jesus, why would they hate such a state, and why would they want to fight against it? At least under Jordan, they were granted full citizenship and rights of movement, as well as representation in their parliament. None had thought of it as a permanent arrangement.

Only from 1967 on they remembered they were a nation, lol!

Was it only from Herzl writings in the late 1890s that Israelis realised they were a nation deserving of a homeland?

[yanshuf]

In fairness, if you do not grant them independence, demographic changes will ensure that they will indeed govern the Israelis, and change the character of Israel forever. Unless of course you keep them prisoners of Israel for eternity. Is that the plan?

That remains to be seen, and I suggest you hold your long-term or even short-term prophecies to the future itself.

[yanshuf]

Regardless of whether that is how it began in the beginning, it doesn't alter the fact that most Palestinians do indeed want an independent state in the Middle East, and many are willing to recognise Israel's existence for that purpose.

If it were true, there would be no need to go on the defence from barbaric attacks carried out by the so called "Palestinians". They resorted to acts of war back in October 2000 (the Oslo war) as a response to then PM Barak's proposal of 97% of the land, and the dismantlement of most settlements.

That was, if I take your words seriously, an expression of recognition!

You mean the Israel that most of them had been driven out of? That had confiscated their lands under the various absentee lands acts and refused them right of return?

No. I mean Israel from which most of them ran away in response to a call by the Arab leadership, and the same land in which they intended to execute a genocide against their neighbouring Jews.

That's why it's a self-inflicted tragedy.