IDF kill Palestinians for their organs: Sweden's Aftonbladet

[lapsedmethodist]

Aftonbladet:-

Tabloid. Staffed with Germans and supported Germany during WW2 ( the emergency to be PC )
Just the kind of paper to trust on things Jewish. Or Israeli.

Aftonbladet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[The Riddler]

Just read another article on this claim.

A paragraph from that article

The report said Palestinians claim youngsters were forced to give up theirs
before being executed. This suspicion, the report said, may lead to an
international war crimes investigation against Israel.
The report went
on to say that about half of all kidneys used in transplants in Israel since
2000 were purchased illegally in Turkey, Eastern Europe and Latin America

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...763958,00.html

The problem with this claim

If kidneys were meant to of being used in transplants in Israel since 2000 that were meant to be purchased illegally in Turkey, Eastern Europe and Latin America


Just think of the amount of people that would of had to of being in on this since the year 2000,And to think in these last nine years that somehow they all managed to keep all this a secret.


Secrets are very hard to keep,and would be even harder if such a large group of people were Involved with stolen kidneys

How many people on a serious note actually believe a large group of people would be able to keep a claim like this a secret for the last nine years?

[Eldritch]

"I think most people would trust a mainstream swedish newspaper over the shrill propaganda that you."

The newspaper isn't printing facts it's printing allegations; good to see you

"But you KNOW this has happend and in your heart AGREE with it, so why pretend otherwise?"

What the f*** are you babbling about?

"Oh sorry are just pretending to act like a stereotypical whiyr Texan to prove sometype of point? Another Glennshane?"

[Eldritch]

"Why would the size of a media outlet determine how credible it is?"

These are allegations, do you understand the difference between allegations and facts?

"Id love to pour scorn on this report, sometimes I feel that some publications do actually have an anti-semitic agenda, but there is a huge difference between anti-Israeli and and anti-Jewish (lets not get into idiot semantics about the word 'semite')."

Not really; it's all the same bigoted bullsh**.

"I know plenty of anti-Israeli state, I no absolutely no-one who is anti-Jewish."

The sheer amount of people who compares Israel to nazi germany at those horrible anti-Israel rallies show just how bigoted the 'we just hate zionist - honest!' crowd is.

[Eldritch]

"occupy settlements in Palestinian land"

There are no palestinians.

"There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough".
- Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East

"and join the IDF in their genocidal policy against the indigenous people of Palestine."

They are not indigenous:

"The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's, who came to rebuild the Jewish land. The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab. The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts... Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen... The plows used were of wood... The yields were very poor... The sanitary conditions in the village [Yabna] were horrible... Schools did not exist... The rate of infant mortality was very high... The western part, toward the sea, was almost a desert... The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants".
- The report of the British Royal Commission, 1913

[FutureTaoiseach]

The Zionazis have their own Holocaust-denial, namely denial of their Holocaust against the Palestinians since 1948. All Holocausts should be condemned and acknowledged, not just those that are politically-convenient to deny by the Zionazi Reich in the name of acquiring Lebensraum and making the Palestinian territories Arabfrei.

[Eldritch]

"The Zionazis have their own Holocaust-denial"

And more anti-semitic stupidity from FT, why am not suprised.

"namely denial of their Holocaust against the Palestinians since 1948."

"One of the big lies told by anti-Israel agitators, is that Israel's existence as a Jewish state is uniquely unacceptable in today's world. Another fabrication is that of "ethnic cleansing" of Arabs, both in 1948 as a result of Israel's War of Independence and also after 1967, when Israel took control of the West Bank and Gaza from their previous occupiers (Jordan and Egypt, respectively); this claim gets even more fantastically metamorphed into charges of "genocide" begin committed by Israel. Doing an internet search with either one of those terms and "Israel" yields a lengthy list of websites, many of which claim to be "antiwar", trumpeting such charges.

Interestingly enough, it's actually quite simple to rebut these lies using some rather simple arithmetic. All of the statistics used here are from Israeli-Palestinian ProCon, which is a neutral site that does not take positions on the issues and is not run by advocates with either a pro- or anti-Israel position. (Of course, you can hear the screams of "if you're not obviously against the racist-colonialist-Zionist-occupiers then we can't trust anything you say" from those who promote the big lies. Just ignore them and focus on the facts.)

In 1946 "Palestine" (the British Mandate, comprising what is now Israel, the West Bank and Gaza) had 608,000 Jews and 1,237,000 Arabs (all statistics rounded to the nearest thousand). As a result of the war of extermination launched by 5 Arab countries against the nascent state of Israel, there was a population exchange-- the Arab population mostly ended up in the West Bank and Gaza, to be imprisoned in refugee camps there. The Jewish population that had lived outside the borders of the state of Israel either fled as refugees to Israel or were killed. By 1949, Israel had 159,00 Arab citizens and 1,014,000 Jewish citizens. In 1950, the nearest year for which population statistics are available, the West Bank and Gaza had 1,005,000 Arabs and no (living) Jews-- it was a thoroughly ethnically cleansed area. Some towns like Hebron that had Jewish populations for uninterrupted centuries were actually ethnically cleansed long before the UN Partition Plan, as the result of pogroms. Some, like the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem and the kibbutzim of the Etzion Bloc, were conquered by Arabs and the survivors forced to flee for their lives.

You can learn more about the ethnic cleansing of Jewish communities in Palestine here .

Now let's see what happened after 1967. The population of the West Bank in 1970 (prior to the re-establishment of any Jewish population in that area, outside of Jerusalem) was 677,000 Arabs--and no Jews (except for a few hundred of the ancient Samartian cult living near Nablus). By 2003, the Arab population was 2,300,000 and the Jewish population was 219,000. Yes, that's right. The Arab population more than TRIPLED over that time. In Gaza there were 368,000 Arabs in 1970; by 2003 there were 1,337, 000. Yes, that's not a typo. Under the supposedly genocidal and tyrannical rule of Israeli occupation, the population of Gaza went up FOURFOLD. The Jewish population of Gaza in 2003 was 7,500. Now, of course, it is down to one: Gilad Shalit, the kidnapped Israeli soldier who has been held incommunicado by Hamas terrorists for nearly a year and denied access to Red Cross representatives.

Oh, but certainly in Jerusalem the Arabs are getting pushed out of their neighborhoods and ethnically cleansed, right? Sorry, once again those pesky facts get in the way:

1946: Population of Jerusalem --34,000 Muslims, 31,000 Christians (probably not all Arab), 99,000 Jews

1967: 58,000 Muslims, 13,000 Christians, and 197,000 Jews

2000: 197,000 Muslims, 14,000 Christians and 440,000 Jews

Once again, the Muslim population more than tripled since Israel re-unified the city!

Those crafty Zionists-- conducting ethnic cleansing but hiding it so well that the Arab population doubles every 20 years. How do they pull it off?"

Richmond IMC: The Myth of ethnic cleansing

"All Holocausts should be condemned and acknowledged, not just those that are politically-convenient to deny by the Zionazi Reich in the name of acquiring Lebensraum and making the Palestinian territories Arabfrei."

Apart from cringe inducing anti-semitic bigotry there are no 'palestinians'.

[FakeViking]

"occupy settlements in Palestinian land"

There are no palestinians.

"There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough".
- Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East

"and join the IDF in their genocidal policy against the indigenous people of Palestine."

They are not indigenous:

"The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's, who came to rebuild the Jewish land. The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab. The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts... Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen... The plows used were of wood... The yields were very poor... The sanitary conditions in the village [Yabna] were horrible... Schools did not exist... The rate of infant mortality was very high... The western part, toward the sea, was almost a desert... The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants".
- The report of the British Royal Commission, 1913

Yet today the Gaza strip is one of the most populated regions of the planet. Go Figure.

[Eldritch]

"Yet today the Gaza strip is one of the most populated regions of the planet. Go Figure."

Which is because the arab occupation between 1948 and 1967 led to massive immigration; not to mention you're talking about 'people' who have massive amounts of children to indoctrinate as terrorists. Also the high population flies in the face of the genocide myth. An example of the indoctrination:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZEGsnWZKh8]YouTube - Hamas Mickey Mouse speaks of Islamic supremacy[/ame]

[Eldritch]

Also isn't it interesting that the same people who go to rallies and call Jews nazis don't seem to care about islamic regimes? For example I've yet to see those idiots telling people to boycott Egypt because of the oppression of the indigenous Coptic christians; if Jews can't be smeared they're not interested.