What if 9/11 never happened?

[daithimac]

I don't get that line of argument. Its like condeming churchill for standing up to hitler saying that he is only guarenteeing that the nazi army will swell in size

[emmet100]

whatever about nuking Iran or anywhere else, Al-Qaeda and similar groups will only get stronger in accordance with US foreign policy *uck ups. Its biggest mistake is its support for Israel....that really gets the Islamic groups rattling. Forget Iran - I can actually see the Americans running from Iraq..they are being slaughtered by the Insurgency...not even the green zone is safe.

So, America should stop supporting the only democracy in the Middle-East to appease Islamic fanatics who would then have a free hand to destroy it? And the American forces aren't being slaughtered in Iraq...not much more than 2,000 dead troops after over three years of fighting...not bad compared to Vietnam. It's the civilians who are baring the brunt of the terrorist campaign.

[Catalpa]

Not so sure the US will cut and run in Iraq.

Sure it's mess and the kind of clear cut Victory they expected in 2003 is probably not going to emerge, but America will be there or in the vicinity for decades to come.

More so if a War with Iran breaks out.

[mothball]

whatever about nuking Iran or anywhere else, Al-Qaeda and similar groups will only get stronger in accordance with US foreign policy *uck ups. Its biggest mistake is its support for Israel....that really gets the Islamic groups rattling. Forget Iran - I can actually see the Americans running from Iraq..they are being slaughtered by the Insurgency...not even the green zone is safe.

So, America should stop supporting the only democracy in the Middle-East to appease Islamic fanatics who would then have a free hand to destroy it? And the American forces aren't being slaughtered in Iraq...not much more than 2,000 dead troops after over three years of fighting...not bad compared to Vietnam. It's the civilians who are baring the brunt of the terrorist campaign.

America has significantly less troops in Iraq compared to their little south east Asia adventure. They couldn’t use their full military might in order to defeat the NVA or VC. They are facing a similar level of threat in Iraq but are able to deal with it in a way superior to that of Vietnam.
The US may only be losing, on average, two or three soldiers a day but it all sdds up and since they have no firm plans to pull out, they will lose many, many, many more of their infid….. soldiers before they choose to leave. 2656 dead after three years, how many after ten, eleven,twelve…. Don’t forget the twenty thousand wounded, over a hundred a week.

[Rocky]

I've never liked this type of threads because it's impossible to know the answer unless you know the reason why 9/11 didn't happen. 9/11 wasn't an isolated event, it was the result of many factors for example the growth of Islamic Fundamentalists in the Middle East, which happened for other reasons. If it didn’t happen it most likely would have been because the CIA would have stopped it, so most likely they would have tried again, had that failed as well, then I don’t know. The threat would still be there and Bush, Blair etc. would have probably felt it still needed to be dealt with.

[rkeane]

Not so sure the US will cut and run in Iraq.

The US will never win in Iraq....they have no right to! I admire the insurgents who solely attack US/UK targets in Iraq (not civilian). They are the ones who made up all the lies about wmds...they deserve what they are getting. And does anyone actually believe the US death figures....I for one do not!