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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKane View Post
    Republican take over of congress are you indulging in wish fulfilment again? Sure there has been more divided government than not but how are the republicans going to win back the necessary seats in the house for this to happen? They are so far behind in some seats that changed hands last year someone running is going to be throwing money away just to have their name on the ballot.
    I'm sorry but my contention is backed up by the latest Rasmussen Generic Congressional ballot poll where the GOP leads 41-38. Obama's own approval-ratings are down to 51-28, with 30% strongly approving and 37% strongly disapproving. Voters also prefer the GOP on 8 of the top 10 issues, including the economy (46-41). Immigration is emerging as an issue aswell.
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    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that voters trust the GOP more on economic issues 46% to 41%, showing little change from the six-point lead the party held last month. This is just the second time in over two years of polling the GOP has held the advantage on economic issues. The parties were close on the issue in May, with the Democrats holding a one-point lead. Voters not affiliated with either party trust Republicans more to handle the economy by a 46% to 32% margin.
    Last week’s report of 9.5 percent unemployment, the highest since 1983, raised doubts about the economy and the president's handling of it. Consumer and investor confidenceis now down to the lowest levels in three months. Just 39% now say President Obama is doing a good or an excellent job on the economy while 43% rate his performance as poor. Those are by far the weakest numbers yet for the president.
    The president's approval ratings also have fallen to new lows in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.
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    Most voters (52%) now trust Republicans more on the issue of taxes, also the highest level found in over two years. Only 36% trust Democrats more on taxes. A survey conducted at the end of June found that 39% of voters now expect their taxes to go up under Obama, the highest level of concern measured to date.
    On national security, Republicans hold a 49% to 40% lead over Democrats. That’s down from a 15-point lead last month.
    For the second straight month, voters put North Korea at the top of the list of biggest threats to U.S. national security.
    Republicans hold a four-point lead on the issue of the War in Iraq, down from an eight-point advantage in June.
    Even though American troops have now pulled out of all cities in Iraq and still are on schedule to be completely withdrawn by the end of 2011, 64% of U.S. voters do not believe the war in Iraq is over.
    The GOP has a 40% to 34% lead on the issue of immigration and is ahead 46% to 39% on abortion.
    Republicans also edge out Democrats on government ethics and corruption for the second straight month, 34% to 33%. In June, the GOP held a six-point advantage on the issue.
    Also for the first time in over two years, Republicans lead Democrats on the issue of Social Security 42% to 37%. Democrats held a six-point lead on the issue last month, and the parties were tied in April.
    Democrats have also seen their leads shrink on two of the party’s strong points, health care and education. The party holds a four-point lead on health care, down from 18 points in May. The Democrats’ advantage on the issue is the smallest found in over two years.
    Voters are evenly divided when it comes to the health care reform plans being promoted by the president and Democrats in Congress.
    On education, Democrats lead Republicans 41% to 38%, also the smallest margin in over two years. Democrats held a 15-point lead in May on the issue.
    Fifty-four percent (54%) of all voters say the average congressional Democrat is more liberal than they are, while 36% believe the average Republican congressman is more conservative in comparison to themselves. Just 44% say their own representative in Congress is about the same as them ideologically.
    Republican candidates lead Democrats for the second straight week in the latest edition of the Generic Congressional Ballot.Support for the GOP remains unchanged this week - at its highest level over the past year, but support for Democrats dropped one point to tie its lowest level in the same time period
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    Quote Originally Posted by reknaw View Post
    The National Review, hmmm. The neocon Pravda.

    They do like a bit of wishful thinking, don't they?

    Unless they can come up with something better than Sarah the Failin MILF, with Joe the Dumber as her running mate, Obama will have few worries.
    The National Review makes Pravda look like a bastion of independent, objective journalism. The reason he appears to be doing too much too quickly is that so much has to be done to haul the country back from the cliff-edge Bush and Cheney brought it to.

    It is still too early to say if the Republicans can get their act together before 2012 but the signs are not good (for them!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by reknaw View Post
    The National Review, hmmm. The neocon Pravda.
    Which is why I specifically said leaving aside the source of the article .

    Do you agree that " President Obama has undertaken to do too much at once, seeking a radical re-ordering of American life: legal, political, economic, constitutional, and cultural."?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    I'm sorry but my contention is backed up by the latest Rasmussen Generic Congressional ballot poll where the GOP leads 41-38. Obama's own approval-ratings are down to 51-28, with 30% strongly approving and 37% strongly disapproving. Voters also prefer the GOP on 8 of the top 10 issues, including the economy (46-41). Immigration is emerging as an issue aswell.
    That's right - Obama's poll numbers are heading into Bush country!
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    Too early to sat. He has certainly chosen to fight on a lot of fronts at the same time. He has delivered what he promised on Iraq and he does appear to have a lot of goodwill, but in the end in comes down to the economy and the jury is still out there.
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    American freinds feel he's going too slowly

    Most of the Americans I know (IT west coast liberal types) feel that his incrementalism is hurting him with Democrats, they were looking for a roll back of the neo-con revolution, the introduction of a health care system and a quick end to the Guantanamo debacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKane View Post
    That gap of 7 votes for the cap and trade was as a result of the deliberate managing of the democratic vote by the congressional whips in that they allowed loads of dems whose electorates would not be keen on the bill to go off the reservations on it.
    How could a poster like you post such drivel as this. It took 4 rounds of bribery to get the numbers and in the morning Pelosi had not got the votes. It was 6.30pm before she allowed the vote to go after 8 republicans were promised that they would face no democrat challenger in 2010. They even had to spring Patrick "Patches" Kennedy from drug rehab in Chicago and fly him in to vote.

    Anyway as you can see Obama hasn't a hope in Hell of getting the votes in the Senate.


    Unless you have some conspiracy theory for that as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngdan View Post
    How could a poster like you post such drivel as this. It took 4 rounds of bribery to get the numbers and in the morning Pelosi had not got the votes. It was 6.30pm before she allowed the vote to go after 8 republicans were promised that they would face no democrat challenger in 2010. They even had to spring Patrick "Patches" Kennedy from drug rehab in Chicago and fly him in to vote.

    Anyway as you can see Obama hasn't a hope in Hell of getting the votes in the Senate.


    Unless you have some conspiracy theory for that as well
    I trust this analysis as to who voted against and why more than yours.

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    I am not surprised you do because it is saying the exact same thing as I am. The 44 blue dog democrats voted against the bill because they would be soundly defeated in their conservative districts had they voted for (3 exceptions).


    It is the 8 republicans who voted for this foolishness that needs closer attention.

    One has got a job in the Obama administration

    Two are to run for the senate so they are not up for reelection.

    The other 5 are bought off brcause the deal is that they will not be challenged in their liberal districts by a democrat.


    Now how does this article disagree with what I said.

    They were lucky to scrape the vote after 4 attempts.

    They see they don't have the votes in the senate so there will not be a vote.

    If they had the votes Reid would have gone ahead and it would be on Obama's desk by now.

    It isn't and hopefully it never will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrynesaver View Post
    Most of the Americans I know (IT west coast liberal types) feel that his incrementalism is hurting him with Democrats, they were looking for a roll back of the neo-con revolution, the introduction of a health care system and a quick end to the Guantanamo debacle.
    I fear that, as he warned in his inaugural speech, they are in for a lot of grief.

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