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    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Rat View Post
    But the Irish army does not wage war at a ratio of 1 every 10 years, illegally, does it?
    Never suggested it did, however irish soldiers have been killed in action in many of the overseas postings since Congo. Doesn't all boil down to statistics all the time but heres a few as you're interested in them; 4 Irish born British soldiers have died on service in Iraq & Afghanistan, at least 2 others serving in the US army killed also.
    Given that recruitment to the Irish army has stopped and recruitment to the British Army is climbing my analysis is that young men are once more following a well worn track from Ireland (Tom Barry, Emmet Datlon, James Connolly, even Christy Burke)to GB barracks. Should someone who wants to serve in an army not do so becasue our government prioritises bankers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endoftheworldasweknowit View Post
    My sympathies to both his family and the family of the other soldier killed by the roadside bomb.
    My sympathies to the thousands who have suffered because of megalomaniacs like this. The feeble excuse that he was just doing his job is insulting in the extreme, unless of course you're willing to accept that the Taliban were doing theirs. Two more were killed today, how many more before the UK pulls its troops out of the mess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyQueing View Post
    Do not know how many Afghani's were killed inthe blowing up of the huge statues, I recall seeing it on TV or something and if I can recall they were controlled explosions, so I would not think that many deaths occurred and if they did I am sure tha was accidental.. I may be wrong but I do not lose sleep over it. I do not even care about the statues.
    Then you are a barbarian and you display your ignorance well. The destruction was an attempt to eradicate the history and memory of an entire ethnic group. It was an act of cultural vandalism on a par with the Nazi destruction of mosques, the Maoist cultural revolution and the shelling of the National Library of Bosnia in Sarajevo.
    Doubtless you do not know or care about the words of Heinrich Heine: “Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings.” Well, I consider that the deliberate destruction of cultural heritage is on a par with burning books and the Taliban are cut from the same cloth as those above.
    I do not like Karzai. I consider him corrupt, and with little knowlwedge of democracy and tolerant of his former warlord chums, but, bad as he is, there is no contest when I consider the alternative, the insane Taliban zealots. Yes, they brought "order"..at a dreadful price. As Maurice Latey said "None of the ills that totalitarianism claims to cure is worse than totalitarianism itself"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endoftheworldasweknowit View Post
    Never suggested it did, however irish soldiers have been killed in action in many of the overseas postings since Congo. Doesn't all boil down to statistics all the time but heres a few as you're interested in them; 4 Irish born British soldiers have died on service in Iraq & Afghanistan, at least 2 others serving in the US army killed also.
    Given that recruitment to the Irish army has stopped and recruitment to the British Army is climbing my analysis is that young men are once more following a well worn track from Ireland (Tom Barry, Emmet Datlon, James Connolly, even Christy Burke)to GB barracks. Should someone who wants to serve in an army not do so becasue our government prioritises bankers?
    If Irish people want to join an army and kill people and go off and do just that, then no-one should be surprised if there is not much sympathy for them if the guys they are trying to kill, kill them instead

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    Charles Windor or whatever you call the cnut has said he was "completely mortified" when he heard his friend, the most senior Brit to be killed in Afghanistan, had died in action along with a colleague.

    "Pity they couldn't have got that redhaired bollocks Harry Hewett when he was there" Charles allegedly said later.

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    Can we have a moritorium (no pun intended) on offering sympathy to wives and family ? I swear it makes me cringe every time. Unless you happen to be the president, of course, then it's ok, it's your job, like.
    One cannot say "Here are our monsters", without immediately turning the monsters into pets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrida View Post
    Can we have a moritorium (no pun intended) on offering sympathy to wives and family ? I swear it makes me cringe every time. Unless you happen to be the president, of course, then it's ok, it's your job, like.
    It would hardly be fitting for the President to be sympathising with the family of some foreigner killed in a drug turf war. Does she sympathise with drug war victims' families in Dublin or Limerick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Crowley View Post
    Lieutenant Colonel Rupert Thorneloe, 39, Commanding Officer of the 1st Battalion Welsh Guards is the highest ranking Brit army officer to be killed since the Falklands War.

    He is the most senior Brit to be killed in Afghanistan since operations began in October 2001. Only six Brit Commanding Officers have died on operations in command of their units since 1948.

    Ironically he was killed by a roadside bomb and one of the other six Brit commanders to be killed was killed at Narrow Water; where the IRA used a roadside bomb and a secondary booby trap. In that instance the dead Brit commander was Lt. Colonel David Blair.

    Thorneloe was killed with another Brit in Helmand and this is an example of the price they pay to secure the opium crop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoShandor View Post
    Then you are a barbarian and you display your ignorance well. The destruction was an attempt to eradicate the history and memory of an entire ethnic group. It was an act of cultural vandalism on a par with the Nazi destruction of mosques, the Maoist cultural revolution and the shelling of the National Library of Bosnia in Sarajevo.
    Doubtless you do not know or care about the words of Heinrich Heine: “Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings.” Well, I consider that the deliberate destruction of cultural heritage is on a par with burning books and the Taliban are cut from the same cloth as those above.
    I do not like Karzai. I consider him corrupt, and with little knowlwedge of democracy and tolerant of his former warlord chums, but, bad as he is, there is no contest when I consider the alternative, the insane Taliban zealots. Yes, they brought "order"..at a dreadful price. As Maurice Latey said "None of the ills that totalitarianism claims to cure is worse than totalitarianism itself"

    ballocks -pure and simple. They have been fighting tribal wars there since time immemorial, one valley against the other, one racial group against the other, so the quote you gave is superceded by generations of tribal wars and death. Another shock horror poster. Go and take a wee tablet and you will be fine in the morning
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    Britain is protecting the biggest heroin crop of all time

    By CRAIG MURRAY

    "My knowledge of all this comes from my time as British Ambassador in neighbouring Uzbekistan from 2002 until 2004. I stood at the Friendship Bridge at Termez in 2003 and watched the Jeeps with blacked-out windows bringing the heroin through from Afghanistan, en route to Europe.

    I watched the tankers of chemicals roaring into Afghanistan.

    Yet I could not persuade my country to do anything about it"

    Britain is protecting the biggest heroin crop of all time | Mail Online
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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