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Thread: Iranian Protests Another US Orchestrated "Color Revolution?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    It dosnt matter what Ganley was leading, he noticed some irregularity in the opening of boxes, and he insisted on an enquity. This is the normal way to do things. He did not call for a new election, but the correct counting of votes. Again, this is the normal way to do things. To immediately call thousands of people onto the streets rather than wait for an enquiry indicates that this whole thing was planned well in advance.
    I really wouldn't make a hero out of Ganley over that recount. It was a patent device to drag the result out to purport dirty tricks, or to suggest a non-existent knife-edge defeat. It cost a lot of time and money. The only result it turned up was that 3,000 of somebody elses votes had gotten into one of his piles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergalr View Post
    You're saying the Islamic Republic of Iran is a normal democracy?
    Well, lets just say that Americans didnt immediately riot when George Bush stole an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    Are the Iranian Protests Another US Orchestrated "Color Revolution?"
    I doubt it. I can't see the Obama regime bothering to encourage democracy in facist dictatorships like Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    Well, lets just say that Americans didnt immediately riot when George Bush stole an election.
    Probably because there was a legal system both sides were confident they could seek recourse in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    I really wouldn't make a hero out of Ganley over that recount. It was a patent device to drag the result out to purport dirty tricks, or to suggest a non-existent knife-edge defeat. It cost a lot of time and money. The only result it turned up was that 3,000 of somebody elses votes had gotten into one of his piles.
    But the fact is that he was proven correct - there were irregularities. By the logic of some posters, he would have been justified to start rioting even after he was promised a recount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    But a 10% recount would immediately show any irregularities. If boxes were stuffed as you say, it will be blindingly obvious. it seems to me that the opposition are desperate to make sure no recount happens, as it may well be shown that they have no case.
    We already have irregularites though, the opposition candidate loosing his own home town?? More ballots than the numb of electors in some areas??
    The Supreme Leader already decided for them with his delcaration.
    Ahsmagdfdsaf is nothing more than a dictator now, he always acted like one, now it's official.
    Even in the US, when Bush blatantly stole the election, you didn't see civilians getting gunned down at protests and a ban on all international media!, why are they trying to supress them? They're worried this might be the Islamic revolution in reverse.

    The question of the thread is a valid one, they did it in Venezuela and Serbia (even though in Serbia I'd no problem seeing Slobo go), but when you look at the facts, the answer is no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    But the fact is that he was proven correct - there were irregularities. By your logic, he would have been justified to start rioting even after he was promised a recount.
    Nah. Ireland's a liberal democracy. Iran isn't. And Mousavi actually has popular support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    I doubt it. I can't see the Obama regime bothering to encourage democracy in facist dictatorships like Iran.
    This plan was put into operation at least two years ago, as reported in the article above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergalr View Post
    Nah. Ireland's a liberal democracy. Iran isn't. And Mousavi actually has popular support.
    But has he enough popular suppoert to win the election? He certainly has cadres of well organised and trained rioters behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    This plan was put into operation at least two years ago, as reported in the article above.
    I like how the plan is real and was still operating after Inauguration Day. You don't think someone in the administration made sure that all Middle East operations weren't looked at with fresh eyes by a fresh Chief Executive?
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