Iranian Protests Another US Orchestrated "Color Revolution?"

[cactusflower]

Even if it were true, would it be a bad thing? Seed money for democracy

Democracy my a**. The last thing the US wants in any oil state is democracy. It got rid of democracy once in Iran and kept it at bay for decades. The failed Moldovan "Twitter Revolution" only a few weeks ago was incited in spite of an undisputed election victory by the communists.


Oil rush: Scramble for Iraq's wealth - Middle East, World - The Independent

Undermining Democracy: Iran

The US wants to pre-empt the trading realignment of the BRIC countries with China and away from the dollar.

Pursuit of the Chinese model also entails growing cooperation with China, India, and the rest of the Asian countries. Such a realignment, if fully achieved, would be of epochal magnitude: despite the ruling elite’s inclinations, Iran has looked westward for its cultural, political, and economic alliances for most of the last two millennia. The economic foundation of this pivot is a proposed pipeline that would connect Iran to India and China, leaving the country completely independent of any market pressures from the west.

There was an extraordinary spike in oil prices last year and the subsequent fall has caused severe economic difficulties in oil producing countries including Iran and Iraq that had expanded their expenditure on the basis of the higher prices. This has created social discontent and is influencing what is happening on the streets.

[Panopticon]

So, the obvious thing to do is hold an enquiry, not riot on the streets.

One may as well ask Mugabe to inquire into ZANU-PF intimidation.

[fergalr]

Democracy my a**. The last thing the US wants in any oil state is democracy.

That must be why the US was such a staunch supporter of Soviet communism.

[Cael]

They're demanding a second vote. That's all. Seems reasonable at this point. If FF fiddled with an election, you'd be the first to post links here to websites containing instructions for how to construct molotov cocktails.

Mousavi was leading a huge national movement. Ganley was leading an ethereal fake grassroots sham. Like a piss poor Irish Orpheus.

It dosnt matter what Ganley was leading, he noticed some irregularity in the opening of boxes, and he insisted on an enquity. This is the normal way to do things. He did not call for a new election, but the correct counting of votes. Again, this is the normal way to do things. To immediately call thousands of people onto the streets rather than wait for an enquiry indicates that this whole thing was planned well in advance.

[PhoenixIreland]

It dosnt matter what Ganley was leading, he noticed some irregularity in the opening of boxes, and he insisted on an enquity. This is the normal way to do things. He did not call for a new election, but the correct counting of votes. Again, this is the normal way to do things. To immediately call thousands of people onto the streets rather than wait for an enquiry indicates that this whole thing was planned well in advance.

They're only offering to check 10% of the ballots and if the entire election is rigged and full of ballot stuffing, a recount isn't going to help that now is it?
...and the govt shooting unarmed civilians in the streets and the 100s of people twittering on govt oppression from inside the country...is that all CIA too?
..and if it was a big American overthrow plot like Chavez in 2002 wouldn't' Obama be on top of this like a fly on ******************** making statements ever two minutes condemning Ahamasgdkdsfds?

[Cael]

One may as well ask Mugabe to inquire into ZANU-PF intimidation.

That dosnt hold true. People seemed confident that there would be a fair election, they didnt seem to have any reason to believe otherwise, and when the opposition seem to have lost, they immediately have a sophisticated organisation of rioters in place, and use it straight away - dismissing any procedures for an enquiry. This seems to me to have the letters CIA printed all over it.

[fergalr]

It dosnt matter what Ganley was leading, he noticed some irregularity in the opening of boxes, and he insisted on an enquity. This is the normal way to do things. He did not call for a new election, but the correct counting of votes. Again, this is the normal way to do things. To immediately call thousands of people onto the streets rather than wait for an enquiry indicates that this whole thing was planned well in advance.

You're saying the Islamic Republic of Iran is a normal democracy?

[Cael]

They're only offering to check 10% of the ballots and if the entire election is rigged and full of ballot stuffing, a recount isn't going to help that now is it?
...and the govt shooting unarmed civilians in the streets and the 100s of people twittering on govt oppression from inside the country...is that all CIA too?

But a 10% recount would immediately show any irregularities. If boxes were stuffed as you say, it will be blindingly obvious. it seems to me that the opposition are desperate to make sure no recount happens, as it may well be shown that they have no case.

[fergalr]

Cael, in any case I thought you were all for the overthrow of the status quo? Surely you should be supporting the rioters against the stultifying authoritarian establishment in Iran?

Or is that only when the country is Western?

[Trampas]

But a 10% recount would immediately show any irregularities. If boxes were stuffed as you say, it will be blindingly obvious..... .

How so ?