Ron Paul Is Sole Dissenter From Resolution Supporting Iranian Protests

[Monkey-Magic]

Err...without a government to lobby, how does anyone get away with parasitism?

A parasite is anyone who makes their money from a capital function as opposed to creating wealth and receiving renumeration for it.

[Mercurial]

Such statements of condemnation are for purely political purposes. Morals play no part. If these people had principles OR morales they'd stop the CIA from constantly interfering in these countries. That would show some morale currency. As it is, the USA as a Morale Authority is Bankrupt and it's words of condemnation, while primarily for the ears of its electorate could lead to greater harm for those in Iran.

There is one rule to view all geo-politics by, morales never come into it.

Ah, so I was being naïve in claiming that one side was morally bankrupt when I should have said that both sides are?

I do not think one need occupy a moral high-ground in order to be obliged to intervene. That would be like a man explaining that he did not come to the aid of his neighbour as she was being assaulted by her husband because he occasionally beats his own wife and thus lacked the moral authority to interfere.

We can be pessimistic (or cynical or realistic, or however you wish to interpret it) about the motivations for public condemnations such as these but I think what condemnations are made ought to be encouraged where appropriate. As far as the condemnations leading to greater harm for those in Iran, as far as I can see the sole responsibility for the harm which has come to the protestors lies with the Iranian government. Blaming US interference can be no excuse.

[20000miles]

A parasite is anyone who makes their money from a capital function as opposed to creating wealth and receiving renumeration for it.

Actually, capitalists forward workers payment in the present, way before they make a return.

Of course, governments make their money coercively - through taxation - so a reduction in the size and scope of government is by definition a reduction in parasitism.

[Clanrickard]

Actually, capitalists forward workers payment in the present, way before they make a return.

Of course, governments make their money coercively - through taxation - so a reduction in the size and scope of government is by definition a reduction in parasitism.

So NO to all taxation. Correct?

[20000miles]

That's not Paul's position...

[cHeal]

As far as the condemnations leading to greater harm for those in Iran, as far as I can see the sole responsibility for the harm which has come to the protestors lies with the Iranian government. Blaming US interference can be no excuse.

If they condemn the policing of these protests, which doesn't seem too bad to me, then they must burden the guilt of any surge in violence because of their condemnation. Lets not forget how the US got rid of the last government in Iran. It is incredibly naive to be encouraging this kind of tit for tat political point scoring and it probably will cost lives.


I wonder did they condemn this : BBC NEWS | Americas | UN calls for Peru clashes probe

Probably not because it wouldn't serve them any good to highlight what they are up to in Peru. Different President, same game.

[Mercurial]

If they condemn the policing of these protests, which doesn't seem too bad to me, then they must burden the guilt of any surge in violence because of their condemnation. Lets not forget how the US got rid of the last government in Iran. It is incredibly naive to be encouraging this kind of tit for tat political point scoring and it probably will cost lives.


I wonder did they condemn this : BBC NEWS | Americas | UN calls for Peru clashes probe

Probably not because it wouldn't serve them any good to highlight what they are up to in Peru. Different President, same game.

Just so we're clear, the shooting of protestors by government forces does not seem too bad to you?