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    France to ban the Burqa? Is this secular?

    VOA News - France Moves to Impose Ban on Burqa

    I could understand if there was an argument to ban items of clothing that hide your face, or about wearing clothes like this while driving, but this seems to be more about banning a specific religious/cultural dress. I certainly don't like the values that the burqa represents, but isn't this a very authoritarian solution, and not really a secular one?

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    The Burqa is different. It de-humanises women and debases men to a collection of base urges. It has no place in a civilised society. Fair play to the French.

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    Victor, where do you draw the line regarding legislating on what people can wear?

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    Great news. We should follow.
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    I don't think women should be forced to wear a Burqa, by their husbands or by the state, but I don't think they should be forcibly prevented from wearing a Burqa.

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    Bad news. Just because it's France doesn't mean that their police should become the fashion police

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Meldrew View Post
    The Burqa is different. It de-humanises women and debases men to a collection of base urges. It has no place in a civilised society. Fair play to the French.
    Every culture has its norms. I trust that yours includes keeping your trousers on in public

    Banning the burqa would imprison some women in their homes. Wearing the burqa doesn't imply terrorism any more than wearing a hoody makes you a criminal.

    I admire the secular character of French education and society generally, but this imo is not about secularity, there is no logic behind it It seems to me to be a concession to anti-Islamic prejudice.

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    this is good news and all nations should follow suit

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    I admire the secular character of French education and society generally, but this imo is not about secularity, there is no logic behind it It seems to me to be a concession to anti-Islamic prejudice.
    According to the article, a fair portion of the Muslim community want's it banned too, in the interests of "fighting extremism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tompatrick View Post
    this is good news and all nations should follow suit
    Why not ban the wearing of the crucifix while they're at it?

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