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About LinkBacksIt's a reminder of what happens when people lose the right to determine their own political future to an unelected elite. It should be a warning to us as we approach Lisbon II.
It's a reminder of what happens when people lose the right to determine their own political future to an unelected elite. It should be a warning to us as we approach Lisbon II.
I dont see how Ahmidinejad didnt win . His nation has its back to the wall and feels threatened by the west . Isnt it logical that they would feel inclined towards the conservative option ?
And Ireland, long a nation, be
A province once again!
Inclined towards mroe of the same? The argument does not allot blame to Ahmedinjad, who has wholly failed to deliver on any of his promises, especially economic reform.Originally Posted by Pedro Pique
There is already proven fraud in the election. How can anyone win a fraudulant election? And what precident, in a truely democratic vote, is there for an incumbant government that has led its country into deeper crises to not only win an election, but do so by a larger margin and increased turnout? That is as far as I know without precident.
The protesters chant of "Selection not election" seems to ring true when the facts are examined dispassionatly along side the response of the government.
its not unheard of for nations to vote in a new govt during conflict. didn't britian change govt in WW2?
"To robbery, slaughter, plunder, they give the lying name of empire; they make a desert and call it peace." Galgacus (from Tacitus)
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has accused the CIA of being behind anti-government protests rocking Iran, and repeated his support for Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Chavez, who has tried to cultivate ties with the Islamic republic, said the "imperial hand" of the US Central Intelligence Agency -- and of Europe -- was behind post-election clashes that had killed at least 17 people.
"People are in the streets, some are dead, they have snipers, and behind this is the CIA, the imperial hand of European countries and the United States," he said, "from my point of view that is what is happening in Iran."
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Does anyone else find it suspect that snipers are targeting young women standing on the side of the street - talk about trying to stir up outrage.
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no. i find it very odd that given the huge police and military presence at the protests, CIA snipers are able to operate at will.
"To robbery, slaughter, plunder, they give the lying name of empire; they make a desert and call it peace." Galgacus (from Tacitus)
Iran is not at war. Unless you know or can confirm some theatre of conflict where the Iranian army is deployed and engaged in combat?
Since when do you think the Basij militia give a f**k who they shoot? Especially those the supreme leader has deemed to be subversive and counter-revolutionary.
That the Iranian regime does not care about the opinions of its own people is hardly a suprise. What is a shock though is the brutality that they are prepared to deploy at short notice. Lets not kid ourselves, those participating in protests will be subject to tortures, executions and exiles for years after this.
Fine report on Democracy Now:
Hamid Dabashi on Iran Protests: “This is Not Another Revolution. This is a Civil Rights Movement”
We speak with Columbia University Professor Hamid Dabashi. He writes, “I see the moment we are witnessing as a civil rights movement rather than a push to topple the regime.”
AMY GOODMAN: We continue on Iran. We’re speaking with Hamid Dabashi. He is the Hagop Kevorkian Professor of Iranian Studies and Comparative Literature at Columbia University. Among other books is Iran: A People Interrupted. He was born in Iran himself.
Your piece in the New York Times today is called “Looking for Their Martin Luther King.” Explain.
HAMID DABASHI: It’s based on my reading of what I believe is happening in Iran. This, in my judgment, is a post-ideological generation. My generation was divided into third world socialists, anti-colonial nationalists and militant Islamists. These are the three dominant ideologies with which we grew up. But if you look at the composition of Iranian society today, 70 percent of it is under the age of thirty—namely, born after the Islamic Revolution. They no longer are divided along those ideological lines.
And if you read their newspapers, if you watch their movies, if you listen to the lyrics of their underground music, to their contemporary arts, etc., which we have been doing over the past thirty years, this, to me, is a civil rights movement. They are operating within the Constitution of the Islamic Republic. They don’t want to topple the regime. If you look—come outside, from the right of the right, in the US Senate to the left, is waiting for yet another revolution to happen. I don’t think this is another revolution. This is a civil rights movement. They’re demanding their civil rights that are being denied, even within the Constitution of the Islamic Republic. From their chants that they are doing in the streets to their newspapers, to their magazines, to their websites, to their Facebook, to their Twitters, everywhere that you look, this is a demand for civil liberties and not—
There are, of course, underlying economic factors, statistically. The unemployment in the age cohort of fifteen to twenty-nine is 70 percent. So this is not a class warfare. In other words, people that we see in the streets, 70 percent of them, that a majority of them are young—70 percent of them do not even have a job. They can’t even rent a room, let alone marry, let alone have a family. So the assumption that this is a upper-middle-class or middle-class, bourgeois, Gucci revolutionaries on the side of Mousavi and poor on the side of Ahmadinejad is completely false.
Of the 20 killed, 8 were basij. How many were shot by snipers? You have a great certainty that you know exactly what is going on in Iran. I don't have any such certainty. Chavez has had first hand experience of black flag shootings in demonstrations. There is plenty of room for doubt here.
Do you think the US doesn't know how to kill, abduct and torture people? Obama has just authorised doubling the size of Bagram to take over from Guantanamo Bay.
There is not a small difference between Mousavi and Ahmadinejad. The critical thing is that Mousavi is in favour of privatising oil.
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