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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbler View Post
    Me too. And Fine Gael. Everytime I hear those words I think of Mick Collins blowing peoples brains out. And Fianna Fail everytime I hear those words I think of DeValera and the Free State atrocities and murders against fellow Irishmen. Also the Labour party. Everytime I hear those words I think of IRA men like Proinsias de Rossa who were interned for the border campaign of the fifties but whisper it as the Irish media might hear.
    You remember the names of their victims?

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    It seems that some Palestinians do hate Israel more than they love their own children. Golda Meir was right all those years ago. But then some Palestinians also brainwash children to be suicide bombers and seduce children to the idea that they will go straight to paradise if they become martyrs.

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    Try to understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    What, if I don't accept that Irish culture can be compared to a culture where women & homsexuals are executed for flimsy reasons in a barbaric manner I am a racist & a bigot ?
    Well close bob,

    Its actually the fact that you look at Islamic culture and all you see is a culture where women & homsexuals are executed for flimsy reasons in a barbaric manner that is the root of your problem. You cant find, or indeed don't want to find, one single other attribute of Islamic culture that could be compared with Irish culture even though on a cultural level Islamic society has a well of cultural history deep enough to make Irish culture look like a wee frog pond.
    Its the fact that you are afraid to accept that these societies historically were as great or greater than the Greek Roman English civilisations of history and contributed exponentially to human civilisation.
    You take one or two attributes that frighten you of a society somewhere where the people who live are mainly Muslim and you say" this is all I need to know about Islamic culture".

    Its called Islamophobia, and you are affected deeply

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    Quote Originally Posted by imokyrok View Post
    How can we combat the continuation of this culture? And before people do their anti-muslim war dance we need to bear in mind that religion was culpable for attitudes little different in this country. How did that culture begin to change in this country and how might we promote such a change in other parts of the world?
    you think its the job of the irish people to go around the world telling people how to behave ? Thats absolutely mad , crackers . Who exactly do you think we are and what gives us the right ? In fact why should anyone listen to what Irish people tell them to do ?
    Personally I think its your attitude needs changing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbler View Post
    Me too. And Fine Gael. Everytime I hear those words I think of Mick Collins blowing peoples brains out. .
    as far as im aware the only shots attributed to mick collins being fired at anyone else were at Beal na mBlath in 1922. And twas his own brains that fell out on that occasion .

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    In situations like Palestine, Ireland during the war of independance, occupied Europe during WWII, or any other 'insurectionary' situation the punishment for collaboration has always been death.

    I don't think anybody who hasn't been in that type of situation can fully understand the rights and wrongs of it, but this is certainly not a uniquely Muslim act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Brooks View Post
    Well close bob,

    Its actually the fact that you look at Islamic culture and all you see is a culture where women & homsexuals are executed for flimsy reasons in a barbaric manner that is the root of your problem. You cant find, or indeed don't want to find, one single other attribute of Islamic culture that could be compared with Irish culture even though on a cultural level Islamic society has a well of cultural history deep enough to make Irish culture look like a wee frog pond.
    Its the fact that you are afraid to accept that these societies historically were as great or greater than the Greek Roman English civilisations of history and contributed exponentially to human civilisation.
    You take one or two attributes that frighten you of a society somewhere where the people who live are mainly Muslim and you say" this is all I need to know about Islamic culture".

    Its called Islamophobia, and you are affected deeply

    For very many people throughout the world, including myself, interest in Islam began on 9/11. By all means take the history class but do not be too surprised when you discover that the current affairs class is more popular. By the way, a phobia is an irrational fear. There is nothing irrational about harbouring an extreme wariness of those who over the past decade or so have given us 9/11 and countless other atrocities in the name of their religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    For very many people throughout the world, including myself, interest in Islam began on 9/11. By all means take the history class but do not be too surprised when you discover that the current affairs class is more popular. By the way, a phobia is an irrational fear. There is nothing irrational about harbouring an extreme wariness of those who over the past decade or so have given us 9/11 and countless other atrocities in the name of their religion.
    You'll forgive the rest of us then, who tend to focus on the facts rather than hype, for treating such a myopic attitude with the scorn it deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodin View Post
    You'll forgive the rest of us then, who tend to focus on the facts rather than hype, for treating such a myopic attitude with the scorn it deserves.

    Focus away. You might even care to share those "facts" with us, always provided that they are reasonably topical. You can start with 9/11, 7/7, 21/7, Madrid, Beslan, Bali x2, (draws breath) Istanbul, Casablanca and a host of other atrocities and thwarted jihadist plots against non-believers, their interests and their property. All "hype" I supose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    Focus away. You might even care to share those "facts" with us, always provided that they are reasonably topical. You can start with 9/11, 7/7, 21/7, Madrid, Beslan, Bali x2, (draws breath) Istanbul, Casablanca and a host of other atrocities and thwarted jihadist plots against non-believers, their interests and their property. All "hype" I supose.
    This might be a shock but "terrorism" isn't a new thing. Nor is religous/territorial conflict.

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