Is this Mladic in 2008?

[nirvana]

[COLOR="Blue"]To merle - this is about your lies :
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BBC NEWS | Europe | Timeline: Siege of Srebrenica

6 - 8 July 1995: Bosnian Serb forces had laid siege to the Srebrenica enclave, where tens of thousands of [COLOR="Red"]civilians[/COLOR] had taken refuge from earlier Serb offensives in north-eastern Bosnia.

Refugees flee Srebrenica
Survivors from Srebrenica fled to Muslim-held territory
They were under the protection of about 600 lightly armed Dutch infantry forces. Fuel was running out and no fresh food had been brought into the enclave since May.

Serb forces began shelling Srebrenica. Bosnian Muslim [COLOR="Blue"]fighters in the town asked for the return of weapons they had [COLOR="Red"]surrendered[/COLOR] to the peacekeepers[/COLOR] but their request was refused.
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11 July 1995: The Serb forces did not withdraw, but at 0900 Colonel Karremans received word from Sarajevo that his request for close air support had been submitted on [COLOR="Red"]the wrong form[/COLOR]. At 1030, the re-submitted request reached General Janvier, but Nato planes had to return to base in Italy to refuel after being airborne since 0600.

[nirvana]

Required Links :

Articles :
Domovina Net - Srebrenica
Videos:
Domovina Net - Srebrenica
Deniers of Serbia's War Crimes (to better understand a machinery behind a doctrine)
[COLOR="Blue"]Supporters of Serbian genocide[/COLOR]
War-crimes deniers
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Scorpions – Srebrenica video | the earley edition

[COLOR="Red"]This was made by an innocent Serbian supporter of their Scorpions[/COLOR]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDFqqO3XjkY&feature=related]YouTube - Ziveli skorpioni ( Srebrenica )[/ame] made by [COLOR="SeaGreen"]Vojvoda[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]Interesting name - quite popular[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"][COLOR="Red"]Srebrenica Massacre[/COLOR][/COLOR]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYiaX2Jxyag&feature=related]YouTube - 1995, Srebrenica massacre of thousands of Muslim in Europe[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4wtBJHMdU&feature=related]YouTube - Srebrenica Massacre-part1[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj25iI7Tdc0&feature=related]YouTube - Srebrenica Massacre-part2[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-reiBVLpL8&feature=related]YouTube - Srebrenica Massacre-part3[/ame]

[COLOR="Red"]Trnovo Execution (Scorpions - self made)[/COLOR]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=norSzT3l2L8]YouTube - Trnovo Execution Part 1[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNKbab5bFeQ]YouTube - Trnovo Execution Part 2[/ame]

[COLOR="Red"]SKORPIONI-U Zlocinackom Pohodu[/COLOR]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84_LdFAA3c0]YouTube - SKORPIONI-U Zlocinackom Pohodu (1/3)[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHpEs9dVgWs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHpEs9dVgWs[/ame]

[Partizan]

and i see the beheader Nasir Oric was allowed to walk scot free from the Hague Tribunal despite evidence of the slaughter of hundreds of Serbs around Srebrenica.

[TheLastPaddy]

With the posts from Nirvana is he on some sort of progaganda mission or something? Looks like it to me.

[Partizan]

With the posts from Nirvana is he on some sort of progaganda mission or something? Looks like it to me.

Indeed. He has only set up his account here in the last few days for this thread. I wouldnt be surprised if he is part of a well organised Bosnian government propaganda campaign to discredit Serbia as Belgrade has put in its application to be included in the Schengen List and Sarajevo is rolling out its best media spin in a bid to scupper Serbia's bid for visa liberalisation. If the Serbs and Croats get on the white list, its bad news for Sarajevo. The timing of the Mladic video and the propaganda onslaught against Serbia makes this all very suspect.

Nirvana's stuff is more of the Serbs are evil crap that has been spun in the Western media for nearly 20 years. While no doubt crimes were committed, all sides in the Bosnian war, especialy the Muslims have their own skeletons in the closet, especially one Mr Oric.

[Partizan]

@merle,
This is my last off-topic post due to respect of the original poster.
I didin't call you anti muslim racist, but I think that you have huuuge issues about that. Not my problem. I don't have time to dig for a link so can we regard my claim as "not substantiated" until I send you a link ? There is nothing malicious about it but forex keeps me too busy . I'm not paid to post here. It is not "demonizing a particular ethnic group" if I provide plenty of keywords so everyone can check it out. Draza Mihajlovic is idol to most of them, and people of Ravna Gora celebrate him even today. A lot of officers of VRS are called Vojvoda - Cetnics titles of commanders from WWII. Slang for VRS used by their members is Cetnics. The longer beards are kept like in WWII. A lot of them had kokarda on their hats. Don't trust me, please check. No demonising - that is what happened and if you check youtube they are proud of it. Nothing for me to say really.
Also you have impressive number of posts but uncalled personal attacks seems to be your favourite style. How you got the conclusion
"Did the SS perhpas tell you that in WW2 . You know the war in which you guys joined the SS en masse"
How do you know that I was even born before WWII ? What guys joined SS ? Who said it was "en masse" - do you have a source ? Also my post 21.
BTW your pictures of Nazis are Croats and not Bosnians. Others are German Army (muslims) and none of them got anything with the philosophy of Bosnians killed during genocide. Most of them were not alive in 1940. Nazis devastated population of Bosnia during WWII as well as Serbs and Macedonians and Montenegrians. Why do you think that people would support them - ever ? So your pictures are way more misleading and are a clear fabrication comparing with my lack of time to find a link (that you called a lie).

Please don't protect Irish people, as at least they can (same as Scots in my belief) protect themselves really well and can't be fooled. I got huge respect for both of them. You know the line "There are two kinds of people". BTW Bono has dual citizenship - Bosnian as well and is an honorary citizen of Sarajevo. The guy is treated as God in Bosnia and he would not support Nazis and have their passport.

Your text of Srebrenica is a joke, but keep going. You didn't comment from my post 14:
"Only facts and logic. Do you know what logistics is necessary to eliminate 8000+ people, dig graves, transport people and finish it all in 7 days ? Srebrenica is not an accident but well planned scenario. Petrol was even supplied from Serbia. Why some bodies have been transported to Belgrade and later returned ? Have you watched Scorpions in Srebrenica. It's on youtube. Watch and make an opinion by yourself."

And it is not "some poet" but a guy who gave a great explanation of their nature, and he loves them and is one of them. That is what they stand for, without one single "false claim" by an outsider. No need to comment, just think. You don't understand them much but you are quite ready to elaborate about events around Srebrenica and in Balkans in general. Interesting, hopefully you are well paid to spend so much time.

Again why do you work so hard to change topic from video of Mladic ?
Next post only about video.

Bono is a Grade A arsehole. As well as being a sympathiser and supporter of Blair and Bush, he barely uttered a word of protest at Israel's actions in Palestine, the invasion of Iraq or the ongoing "war on terror" being played out in Afghanistan. Besides the fact that U2 moved the business section of the U2 empire to Holland to avoid paying tax here in Ireland, depriving our schools and hospitals of additional much needed tax revenue while he clamours on about dropping Third World debt speaks volumes about his hypocrisy.

P.S. he's the lead singer in a crap band.

[nirvana]

No Paddy, propaganda "simply put, is the manipulation of public opinion". These links are made for real, Scorpions even proudly made it themselves. Not a propaganda. ICTY made the rulings and judgments, it happened, it is not propaganda.

I've been asked to provide official links, court links and prove what I've mentioned. Yes, it took me bloody lot of time to search and dig, but had to be done.

Please try with a better tactic - personal attacks are stupid and obvious. Also talk about WWII and stories how others were doing the same, have also been already used. Now propaganda, when presenting a proof - come on Paddy, you can do better.

Problem for you is that there are so many links and people from all over the world confirming the same. I can just give you articles of people who experienced it themselves like Hamon. http://www.politics.ie/1780281-post29.html

Lets talk about links that Partizan requested and I provided.
1-Scorpions
2-Blagojevic
3-Krstic
4-mass graves in Bosnia and Serbia
5 post #30 http://www.politics.ie/1780286-post30.html

What do you think about video of the Scorpion supporter ?
Did you enjoy other videos and do you think that they are fake ?
Why would anyone transfer bodies into secondary graves or to other country ?

[Partizan]

No Paddy, propaganda "simply put, is the manipulation of public opinion". These links are made for real, Scorpions even proudly made it themselves. Not a propaganda. ICTY made the rulings and judgments, it happened, it is not propaganda.

I've been asked to provide official links, court links and prove what I've mentioned. Yes, it took me bloody lot of time to search and dig, but had to be done.

Please try with a better tactic - personal attacks are stupid and obvious. Also talk about WWII and stories how others were doing the same, have also been already used. Now propaganda, when presenting a proof - come on Paddy, you can do better.

Problem for you is that there are so many links and people from all over the world confirming the same. I can just give you articles of people who experienced it themselves like Hamon. http://www.politics.ie/1780281-post29.html

Lets talk about links that Partizan requested and I provided.
1-Scorpions
2-Blagojevic
3-Krstic
4-mass graves in Bosnia and Serbia
5 post #30 http://www.politics.ie/1780286-post30.html

What do you think about video of the Scorpion supporter ?
Did you enjoy other videos and do you think that they are fake ?
Why would anyone transfer bodies into secondary graves or to other country ?

Naser Oric, Mujahadeen & Al Queda, what do you think about those little unsavoury episodes in Bosnian history nivana?

Unlike you, the rest of the Balkans has moved on and your attempt to discredit Serbia by reopening old wounds and hinder her ongoing EU asecession slaps of bitterness and spite.

The current Serbian government bares no reponsibility for what happened in Bosnia in the 1990s. Its a bit like blaming the current German government for the crimes of the Nazis (whom the Bosnian Muslims collberated with btw). Rasim Ljajic, the Serbian Minister for Labour (who is also a Muslim) has said that the recent videos are part of a concerted campaign to discredit Serbia at this very moment in time when Belgrade is in negotiations with the EU to get Serbia onto the White Schengen list.

Why set up an account in the last few days and post up more of this?

[nirvana]

Indeed. He has only set up his account here in the last few days for this thread. I wouldnt be surprised if he is part of a well organised Bosnian government propaganda campaign to discredit Serbia as Belgrade has put in its application to be included in the Schengen List and Sarajevo is rolling out its best media spin in a bid to scupper Serbia's bid for visa liberalisation. If the Serbs and Croats get on the white list, its bad news for Sarajevo. The timing of the Mladic video and the propaganda onslaught against Serbia makes this all very suspect.

Nirvana's stuff is more of the Serbs are evil crap that has been spun in the Western media for nearly 20 years. While no doubt crimes were committed, all sides in the Bosnian war, especialy the Muslims have their own skeletons in the closet, especially one Mr Oric.

At least some stuff that Serbs did, has been recorded and no need for anyone to discredit them. Just stick with the facts. They did it and you are trying to put a guilt on me ?????? No Western media, no spinning, it happened (unfortunately) and has been done by Serbs. Watch videos that SERBS made, not Western media but Scorpions by themselves. It is amazing that things that you do, you blame on others.

BTW Serbs are not evil but everyone should take responsibility for what they did, Bush, killers in all wars including WWI and WWII, Bosnians, Croats, Rwandans,... If Mr. Oric killed an innocent civilian he should be trialed, jailed and rot in hell.

You asked for links and I provided. Your accusations are hilarious, you support genocide, and then insist that everyone is against Serbs. Stop playing dumb but explain your need to minimize effects of people committing a genocide. Also Partizan is Serbian club, so maybe you took part in exterminations and now have a problem. You are an example of what they do - spread lies, and deny everything. I've presented links for people to see and decide.

Of all your rubbish can you prove few of your claims ? Now you prove that I'm part of "organised Bosnian government propaganda campaign".

[nirvana]

Video of Mladic shows that Serbian Government supported and protected him until recently. Your reaction shows how much they hate West and civilized World. Your answer on http://www.politics.ie/1780413-post37.html is blabbering about something else ??? Help you need can not be found on this forum.

Personally I think none from the former Yugoslavia should get visas for next 5 years at least. Croats, Bosnians and Serbs. Who cares about your visas. That has nothing to do with the Serbian Government's protection of the War criminals.

About your claim that the Government moved on, ask Kostunica and Seselj - 40% of people voted for them. It is a lie that you moved on. Wolf will not change. God, you Partizan spred so many lies - you are a hard-core example. Impressed. The rest of your team are also trying hard, but people will check it out and see through you.