Liberal icon Obama covers up photos of "US soldiers raping prisoners"

[cactusflower]

Ahh CF - the whole world has seen that birth cert multiple times by now! I couldn't care less about his college transcripts and that link you give is members only and just states the following:

publication date: Feb 24, 2009
Obama worked for one year for a company linked to CIA non-official cover (BOC) activities

So not exactly mind-blowing evidence. In any case if true so what! I really don't get your problem here.

Obama is not the messiah. He is simply a humane man who hopefully will do the best he can under the circumstances he finds himself in and he will make mistakes but he seems to have no problem admitting when he gets things wrong. It's not even been six months yet. Rome wasn't built in a day.

All right, maybe I'm the last person to notice that he is a spook. It is so common in US administration that I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise. I still feel angry on behalf of the millions of people who thought they were voting for something else.

Sorry about the bad link on Obama's first job.
Barack Obama's CIA Employment [Archive] - Forums of Pravda.Ru

He went on to work for the Annenberg Foundation and similar.

I must admit I'm not bothered about the birth cert one way or another: the other items I do have a problem with. What can a nice, genuine person possibly have to hide about their college time ? All the other candidates released theirs.

With Obama, during the campaign journalists on the right went ferretting about trying to find stuff to discredit him. There was a nasty campaign that attempted to cast him as being Moslem (apparently a no no) or far left, in touch with former terrorists.

Most people who wanted Bush out understandably viewed all this stuff as smear tactics. The left consequently spent very little time looking to see who this guy was. On the one hand, someone with simplistic populist slogans is always a bit worrying and on the other hand, such a nice looking guy, who people wanted to be genuinely up for a change from the horrors of the Bush period. At the same time, US commentators clearly described him as to the right of Clinton and it was well known that he was funded by big business as well as small internet donations.

I started reading about Obama a week ago. His life is full of big gaps he won't explain. He went from Brzezinski's mentorship in the sovietology course to BIC.

His mother worked for the Ford Foundation, USAID and the World Bank. She left Obama with his grandparents when he was a teenager. Obama's father, who also studied Russian, worked for Mbonga in Kenya who is documented as a CIA asset.

file:///Z:/MN/Obama/Kenya%20-%20Tom%20Mboya%27s%20fatal%20links%20with%20CIA.ht m

Laura Rozen wrote in Mother Jones in September last year about "why some of Bush's intel pros are now working for a Democrat"

The team of former intelligence professionals who have come together to advise Barack Obama describe a candidate who they believe is open-minded and intellectually inclined to absorb information—not just the recognized current threats (terrorism, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, a resurgent and more belligerent Russia), but the ones on the horizon (nuclear terrorism, water wars, climate change and the conflicts it could generate). But they also are urging him to rethink the architecture of the intelligence community to grapple with both current and emerging threats, and to do away with the Bush administration’s legacy of excessive secrecy and its tendency to view complex international challenges in black-and-white terms.

Aside from Brennan, the campaign’s intelligence working group (which is coordinated by former National Security Council official Rand Beers) spans a range of national security professionals who have served in senior leadership, operational and legal positions in the National Security Council, CIA, and defense intelligence agencies, including many who served both Republican and Democratic administrations. Among them: Former CIA deputy director John McLaughlin, former senior CIA operations officers Art Brown and Jack DeVine, retired Ltn. Gen. Claudia Kennedy, retired Ltn. Gen. and former head of the Defense Human Intelligence Service Donald Kerrick, former CIA lawyer and special advisor to the CIA director Kenneth Levitt, former CIA general counsel Jeff Smith, former CIA Near East division chief Robert Richer, and former CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson. Former CIA lawyer and Clinton-era NSC official Mary McCarthy has stepped back from her previous role coordinating the group due to private sector work demands.

But some of Obama’s intelligence advisors say their experience with the recent administration has shown that leaders who think they already know it all can lead to disaster. “Old man Bush was a great guy,” says one veteran intelligence officer now supporting Obama, who requested anonymity. “He was truly interested and sensitive to intelligence. But this Bush administration has done terrible damage to the intelligence business. They have operated a perpetual campaign, treated intelligence as a political tool, and never fully appreciated why it must be non-partisan and objective and can’t be tampered with.”

“It’s time,” he continued, “for a very serious change.”

They seem happy so far and gave Obama a rousing welcome in Langley last month.

The Spies Who Love Obama – Laura Rozen at MotherJones.Com a texan in san francisco

What we are going to get from Obama, at least initially, is a more sophisticated, subtle mix than Bush. He is well positioned to keep Guantanamo open and keep the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan when neither McCain nor Clinton would have. At the end of the day he's there for the people with the big bucks, not for the people who wanted a more egalitarian society at home and a less harmful presence for the US abroad.

[Clanrickard]

Really Clanrickard, dismissing everything you disagree with as tin-foil hat is lazy. I'm not likely to get to the books you're quoting - if there is anything on the internet that refutes what my linked sources are saying, perhaps you would post it.

Sorry you'll have to read the books. Believe me when I say that though they highlight US involvement in early Jihad movements in early 80's they had nothing to do with Al Qaeda. The help Al Qeada got was minimal from the CIA

(This essay was originally submitted as part of the record for Rep. Cynthia McKinney’s congressional briefing; “The 9/11 Commission Report One Year Later, A Citizens' Response: Did the Commission Get it Right?”

Cynthia McKinney?!?!?!? Is that the best you can do? She is a nutjob. She thinks Bush knew about 9/11 and did nothing, thinks 5,000 dead black bodies were disposed of on the QT by the national guard after Huuricane Katrina and that the Jews control Washington. I wouldn't go on about tin foil hats if you didn't keep quoting from the wilder fringes of the left wing.

The US army have raped and tortured. The photographs should be used in evidence in a court of law. For Obama to point to the "mad mullahs" who have been cynically used by the US for decades as an excuse for not showing them is disgraceful.

If these photos are released the Jihadists will have them in every Muslim newspaper and every Muslim country will be carpeted with reproductions. The purpose will be to whip up anti-American fervour. It will be the best recruiting Sargent Al Qaeda have had since Abu Graib. Obama is correct is noting this and refusing to publish them. US soldiers have been tried for war crimes in Iraq and found guilty. How many police or army have been found guilty of similar crimes against the kuffar in Islamic countries?

[Asi-Irish]

Release everything. Release the video tapes of the sodomy. Release the photos of those evil, disgusting, sub-human US 'soldiers' and 'civilian contractors' and all that they have done to innocent women and children.

Release them so that we can recoil in horror at what the US has become. So that justice can prevail and those who carried out these vile, stomach-churning acts of evil can be rounded up, tried and punished for what they have done.

Release the pictures so such evil cannot be carried out in the name of the "West" ever again.

Our own government is complicit in this for letting these murderous, rapist thug US troops pass through Shannon. Let us punish our own 'leaders' too.

Why hide the disgusting criminal acts carried out against Afghans, Arabs, Iraqis and Pakistanis when we are not for a moment allowed to forget what happened to the Jews?

The Yanks are the new Nazis and anyone who defends their actions is a Nazi sympathizer.

[Asi-Irish]

Clanrickard. You are clearly not well. Your mind has been moulded completely. It is too late for you. There is no point in even arguing with you.