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    Web Video on soldiers’ perspective of the Iraq War

    Check out this video and let me know what you think.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle7693.htm

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    Web Video on soldiers’ perspective of the Iraq War

    It’s a good film to show the true nature or America - the stars and the swastikas....

    This video could have been filmed 30 years ago about Vietnam - it’s the same US strategy - civilians are just collateral damage. The attitude that seems to pervade in the US is that an Americans life is worth any number or non Caucasian lives. This will be the case in another 20 years when they invade another country to maintain their superpower status and feed the military industrial complex .

    What has 9/11 go to do with Iraq? NOTHING. Why add that in ? why not show a picture of oil barrels and Haliburton’s stock price rising ……

    What did these people who joined the army expect - did they really think that they wouldn’t have to kill civilians.....thats pretty naieve – the gung ho attitude is what has america in the bind that its in now .

    After their tours they get to go home to their land of malls and drive thrus .The Iraqs never get to leave , they are constantly surrounded by death . Its terrible to shoot a civilian but its even worse to stand by helpless as a foreign force occupies your country and gets to act with total immunity any way they see fit ...the solider’s who admit to killing civilians will never face court martial or have to explain themselves to the families of the dead women and children –US soldiers don’t have to anwers to anyone but their superiors – they have no respect for the government they put in to power – or the so called deomctratic state they are creating –

    I have no sympathy for the US soldiers – they murder innocent women and children .Thats the job they signed up for .

    Seems the US has come up with yet another way to falunt international law and ignore human rights in Iraq ...
    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... 156A85.htm

    How can they think they are the good guys ?????

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    It's amzing how people can actually proud of their own blind faith in their country.

    Their hysteria over september 11th has really taken them over, they should GET OVER IT, they have done 1000 times worse to other countries.

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    I agree with the above but i also feel sorry for the solders as well, many don't have a clue what they are heading into and come from deprived backgrounds in the states and join the army to get away from it all, only to be given this terrible task and then be reviled at home and abroad.
    I think there have been enough wars now that we know that this is just the way people will behave in a war situation, they will become dehumanised and atrocities will happen. theres a fair greater guilt that lies with the rest of us in the western world that turn a blind eye to these things and don't really care or choose not to think about where all our nice things come from.
    It seems a little bit of indifference in each of us can add up to a lot of suffering in other parts of the world.

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    The two most famous soldiers of this war are Private Lynsie England and Private Jessica Lynch, that probably wont change - no matter how many medal of honour winners there are and no matter how many heroics feats are reported, the media will never give them close to the attention that they gave the criminal and the victim mentioned above.

    The soldiers are doing a very difficult job, many are very brave but on the whole I dont think they dont need your pity.

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    watch-this-drive they are under the mistaken impression that what they are doing is somehow helping their country, where it is actually providing yet another excuse for osama bin laden to get more recruits, thus putting their country in greater danger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladstone
    watch-this-drive they are under the mistaken impression that what they are doing is somehow helping their country, where it is actually providing yet another excuse for osama bin laden to get more recruits, thus putting their country in greater danger.
    In your opinion!
    Funnily enough it seems that despite all the p*ssed off muslims in the world they arent lining up in droves to blow themselves up for Osama (I hate all moderate Muslims) Bin Laden.
    Rather I would say that many Muslims are questioning why it took the hated US to lay the foundations for the first representative government of a major Arab government...while other Muslim countries like Indonesia can have their own representative government...
    I short (too late) while you just have your hate for the US government to act as a safety blanket, they have to actually live in those countries so their disapproval for their own unjust government takes priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watch-this-drive
    The soldiers are doing a very difficult job, many are very brave but on the whole I dont think they dont need your pity.
    I agree with w-t-d on this one. Political arguments aside, by in large I would believe the military there to believe in working for the Iraq people (or just following orders) and doing the best job they can. Call it naive etc. but in fairness under their own circumstances it is hard to blame them. Applying your own ideology to "do the better thing", and possibly following a more suitable (debatable) non-violent position is just not a possibility while following an unquestionable chain of command. Most soldiers have come from areas where they are victims of varying degrees of economic failure, and through this they are pushed into the position through external forces (wrapped up in propagandic Nationalism, of course). In this they were exploited, so again they deserve our pity. If your choices are limited after leaving college early in the US there any many cases where joining the military is simply the best (only) choice to avoid economic ruin. They have families to support.

    Its a pity that their positions are eternally undermined by those who would send them to fight in an unnecessary war (where the agreement probably ends).

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    watch-this-drive I thought the saddest footage at all was soon after the invasion, two clips in particular.

    In one, US solders were acting as riot police to contain an Iraqi protest, one soldier said to a guy screaming at him "it's because of me you have the right to stand there" (we can't argue with that right?) the man replied screaming at him "WE DON'T WANT YOU GET OUT GET OUT WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!!".

    The second clip was a soldier with what he would probably consider a minor injury looking tense asking the journalist "were here to help them don't they realise that, why are they fighting us?"

    I wonder, if someone marched into Texas told them their system of government was not acceptable and put them under military occupation would the US citizens sit there calm and content or would they pick up their guns and fight the invaders?

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    If your choices are limited after leaving college early in the US there any many cases where joining the military is simply the best (only) choice to avoid economic ruin. They have families to support.
    On the same side!
    It should be noted the Armed Services in the US have long been attractive to very many because they can be a way into university which otherwise would not be viable.

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