britain - 1st modern "soft totalitarian"/"liberal fascist" state

[keepitreal]

Jacqui would define herself as a socialist, the big brother approach of Nulabour, is very much a product of socialism and their comitment to big business capitalism, but her approach to civil liberties etc, is socialism in practice.

Indeed, and well pointed out. It's so surprising that the UK public and indeed the 'opposition' have been almost mute with each sweeping blow to civil liberties, hardly a mention in the past years, well, except for ID cards and more recently the DNA database.

Nu-Lab have gotten away with so much in the past few years with virtually nothing stopping them - scary. The UK police are also something to be wary of and more often than not I see them referred to as brownshirts and stasi on many blogs and forums.

[rhonda15]

Ranks Ireland 12th - i really thought we would do better than that!



https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2008.pdf

1. China
2. North Korea
3. Belarus
4. Russia
5. United Kingdom: England & Wales
6. United States of America
7. Singapore
8. Israel
9. France
10.Germany
11.Malaysia
12.Ireland
13.United Kingdom: Scotland
14.Netherlands
15.South Korea
16.Ukraine
17.Belgium
18.Australia
19.Japan
20.New Zealand
21.Austria
22.Norway
23.India
24.Italy
25.Taiwan
26.Denmark
27.Hungary
28.Greece
29.Canada
30.Switzerland
31.Slovenia
32.Poland
33.Finland
34.Sweden
35.Latvia
36.Lithuania
37.Cyprus
38.Malta
39.Estonia
40.Czech Republic
41.Iceland
42.South Africa
43.Spain
44.Portugal
45.Luxembourg
46.Argentina
47.Romania
48.Thailand
49.Bulgaria
50.Brazil
51.Mexico
52.Philippines

[fraz1971]

Seven years for a joke that upsets somenone? Ad the smoking ban and most people could end up in prison very easily.

I know of a guy who got three months for stabbing his girlfriend. Well at least when we go to prison we won't have many of the hardcore prisoners to put up with. They'll have to make room for the evil jokers and smokers. Any hard nuts I do meet I will have to tell them I'm in for eating a family. There's no way I would admit it was for telling a joke. That would make for a pretty hard seven years.

[iartaoiseach]

Where do you think we are heading in a few years?

we're on our way, cowen pics, blasphemy, covert surveillance(for the gangs but watch it being used on others).

[Libero]

Is there somewhere I can read a list of the people imprisoned and executed because of the "soft totalitarian"/"liberal fascist" British state?

Obviously rapists and burglars won't be on the list, since they are imprisoned everywhere.

But if it's true that the UK is a police state, there must be lots of people wrongfully imprisoned or killed for petty wrongdoing or political dissent.

I don't see much about it on Amnesty's website. Am I missing something?

[cHeal]

Does Britain even have a death penalty anymore?

Your analysis is far too simple. The right to protest has been severely curtailed, so to the right to privacy and freedom of speech. It seems you are only aloud wish death upon others if you are dark skinned now. BNP members are banned from participating in the police services, random searches and the use of terrorist laws against anybody and everybody over littering, protesting, or the documenting of commercial or military interests considered sensitive. The use and abuse of surveillance methods against people for minor breaches of the law.

The war in Iraq and the many many lies which helped it happen and the many thousands who have died as a result of that invasion.

[pete2]

Am I missing something?

The criminalisation of political dissent in Britain from globalresearch.ca (a very poor source but has further examples not touched on here)

I couldn't give a fiddlers what goes on in britain. If only the political class of Ireland weren't handcuffed to it and its policies we would be fine, but Ireland is handcuffed to it by sheer gombeenery, slave mentality, and uneven political agreement.