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    Chávez, Extending Control, Seizes Assets of Oil Contractors

    CARACAS, Venezuela —President Hugo Chávez asserted greater control over the country’s energy industry on Friday by seizing the assets of some foreign and domestic oil contractors while his government grapples with a sharp decline in oil revenue and mounting debts...

    The move points to a greater concentration of power by Mr. Chávez, who is busily exerting sway over key industries and political institutions during the economic crisis. In recent weeks, his government has also hounded top rivals, stripping the mayor of Caracas of financing for the city budget, while forcing another mayor, of Maracaibo, to seek asylum in Peru after he was confronted with corruption charges.
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    Good on him, they've f*cked Venezuelans over too long.

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    Its a vicious circle. The oil industry itself sees production fall off, so control is extended to subsidiary industries to bolster flaging state performance in the sector. But if past evidance is anything to go by that extension of control will lead to even greater inefficiency, not lower costs. The sort term gain of this is to negate the effects of production loss, not correct that core problem causing it. Long term though, it might only make things worse.

    Through his international links Chavez has all the tools he needs for a good shake out to improve efficiency in the state oil sector. The only thing that is lacking it seems is political will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thac0man View Post
    Its a vicious circle. The oil industry itself sees production fall off, so control is extended to subsidiary industries to bolster flaging state performance in the sector. But if past evidance is anything to go by that extension of control will lead to even greater inefficiency, not lower costs. The sort term gain of this is to negate the effects of production loss, not correct that core problem causing it. Long term though, it might only make things worse.

    Through his international links Chavez has all the tools he needs for a good shake out to improve efficiency in the state oil sector. The only thing that is lacking it seems is political will.
    I agree, Chavez is out of control and must be stopped. The people he rules with an iron fist need to take note of the signs he is now a dictator.
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete2 View Post
    I agree, Chavez is out of control and must be stopped. The people he rules with an iron fist need to take note of the signs he is now a dictator.
    Would like to substantiate any of that with a teeny bit of evidence ?

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    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

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    That's not evidence, its a collection of rabid right wing disinformation.
    Not one of these "US friendly dictators" (Pinochet, for example) has made it onto your "dictator of the month" list although Chavez, a repeatedly democratically elected head of state, has.

    Alphabetical by Dictator

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    That's not evidence, its a collection of rabid right wing disinformation.
    Not one of these "US friendly dictators" (Pinochet, for example) has made it onto your "dictator of the month" list although Chavez, a repeatedly democratically elected head of state, has.

    Alphabetical by Dictator
    eh? I didn't refer to the list you have.

    Pinochet was dictatorofthemonth.com's dictator of the month for May 2004! I don't like dictators from the left or the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Good on him, they've f*cked Venezuelans over too long.
    Yes, now it's time for Venezuelans to be f*cked over by their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete2 View Post
    eh? I didn't refer to the list you have.

    Pinochet was dictatorofthemonth.com's dictator of the month for May 2004! I don't like dictators from the left or the right.

    Including these lads:
    COLONEL HUGO BANZER, President of Bolivia
    FULGENCIO BATISTA, President of Cuba
    SIR HASSANAL BOLKIAH, the Sultan of Brunei
    P. W. BOTHA, President of South Africa
    GENERAL HUMBERTO BRANCO, President of Brazil
    VINICIO CEREZO, President of Guatemala
    CHIANG KAI-SHEK, President of Taiwan
    ROBERTO SUAZO CORDOVA, President of Honduras
    ALFREDO CRISTIANI, President of El Salvador
    NGO DINH DIEM, President of South Viet Nam
    GENERAL SAMUEL DOE, President of Liberia
    FRANÇOIS & JEAN CLAUDE DUVALIER, Presidents-for-Life of Haiti
    GENERAL FRANCISCO FRANCO, President of Spain
    ADOLF HITLER, Chancellor of Germany
    HUSSAN II, King of Morocco
    FERDINAND MARCOS, President of the Philippines
    MAXIMILIANO HERNANDEZ MARTINEZ, General of El Salvador
    MOBUTU SESE SEKO, President of Zaire
    GENERAL MANUEL NORIEGA, Chief of Defense forces, Panama
    TURGUT OZAL, Prime Minister of Turkey
    MOHAMMAD REZA PAHLEVI, Shah of Iran, King of Kings
    GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, Prime Minister of Greece
    PARK CHUNG HEE, President of South Korea
    GENERAL AUGUSTO PINOCHET, President of Chile
    GENERAL SITIVENI RABUKA, Commander, Armed Forces of Fiji
    GENERAL EFRAIN RIOS MONT, President of Guatemala
    ANTONIO DE OLIVEIRA SALAZAR, Prime Minister of Portugal
    HALIE SELASSIE, Emperor of Ethiopia
    IAN SMITH, Prime Minister of Rhodesia
    ANASTASIO SOMOZA, SR. AND JR., Presidents of Nicaragua
    ALFREDO STROESSNER, President-for-Life of Paraguay
    GENERAL SUHARTO, President of Indonesia
    RAFAEL LEONIDAS TRUJILLO, President of the Dominican Republic
    GENERAL JORGE RAFAEL VIDELA, President of Argentina
    MOHAMMED ZIA UL-HAQ, President of Pakistan

    ?

    Why are you describing a democratically elected head of state as a dictator ?

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