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    Globalisation getting wierder

    As a very open economy and one with even more open doors, Ireland has experienced the frontline of globalisation more than most in recent years.
    Mass immigration and an economy run by FDI multinationals have undoubtedly had significant fundamental effects on Irish society.
    Now, the underlying idea to this globalisation is not anything so lofty as freedom of movement or freedom to trade. It's a very simple market-driven formula designed to permit maximum profit for corporate entities.
    This is why we're being told our wages are too high to be competitive, and why we imported hundreds of thousands of foreigners to do jobs here that were being done perfectly well by Irish people, because they were prepared to accept lower remuneration.
    But if the profit motive really is underlining this, then can anyone explain to me why Chinese migrant workers are flocking to India's tourist sector to work, given that there is no way in Hell that they could fly transcontinental and then afford to work for less than the indigenous population?
    Does anyone know what's going on?
    There's a bit more on this on my blog, but since I didn't get an answer from anyone there, I thought I'd bring this here.
    Why are Chinese workers flooding into India's hospitality market? And will it adversely affect their tourism prospects as it did us?

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    Bump.
    Really am keen to get to the bottom of this. Has anyone got any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    As a very open economy and one with even more open doors, Ireland has experienced the frontline of globalisation more than most in recent years.
    Mass immigration and an economy run by FDI multinationals have undoubtedly had significant fundamental effects on Irish society.
    Now, the underlying idea to this globalisation is not anything so lofty as freedom of movement or freedom to trade. It's a very simple market-driven formula designed to permit maximum profit for corporate entities.
    This is why we're being told our wages are too high to be competitive, and why we imported hundreds of thousands of foreigners to do jobs here that were being done perfectly well by Irish people, because they were prepared to accept lower remuneration.
    But if the profit motive really is underlining this, then can anyone explain to me why Chinese migrant workers are flocking to India's tourist sector to work, given that there is no way in Hell that they could fly transcontinental and then afford to work for less than the indigenous population?
    Does anyone know what's going on?
    There's a bit more on this on my blog, but since I didn't get an answer from anyone there, I thought I'd bring this here.
    Why are Chinese workers flooding into India's hospitality market? And will it adversely affect their tourism prospects as it did us?

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    How do you know they're flying? Isn't it possible considering they share a land border, that they are merely getting a bus?

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    True, they could be getting on a bus. A VERY long journey through a border I understand is closed?
    It's still an added cost to their labour which doesn't apply to locals, though.
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    Silly question but have you tried asking one of them?
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    I tried but I had no shared language with them. Those working as waiters were just getting to grips with Hindi (or possibly Urdu or Gujarati or Marathi or whatever) and had no English.
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    Im not going to spend long on this JC - Im off to the bed.

    But , in a nutshell - you will find that when the Chinese move into a market - they tend to bring their own labour with them.

    Because of the trillions of dollars that have been sploshing around China that have to be recycled somewhere - the Chinese have invested massively in Africa, the Indian Subcontinent and South East Asia - while the headline grabbing news has been their massive investment in mines and factories etc etc - the other side is that they have bought massively into the tourist and service industries too - I would say over 60% of Goa and Kerala will be owned by the Chinese by the end of next year.

    I noticed it on a business trip to West Africa a few years back - the Chinese had built the Hotel I was staying in,totally staffed by the Chinese, as well as the 2 factories I was visting and 80-90% of the restaurants in wealthy part of town were owned and staffed by the Chinese aswell - they are a very industrious people and you will find that your average african,Indian and lets be honest here, Irishman wouldn't have that same work ethic.

    Also - you would not believe how racist your average John Chinaman is aswell - and Im sure that is a major issue there aswell - Caucasian Foreign Devils are tolerated as we have money and the technology currently that the Chinese require - but the indians and africans - they are little more than subhumans in the eyes of most chinese - unbelieveable - of all the lands I've been to - its the Chinese and the Russians who are the most intolerant and most completely up their own holes regarding their genetic superiority to the rest of mankind - not that some of Indians wouldn't give them a run for their money too....

    On that pleasant thought I'll bid you goodnight.

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    I can understand that happening in Africa, but I don't understand the Indians going for it. I mean, it's not like they're great mates with the Chinese, nor do they need China's cash.
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