Brits finally deem Gurkhas worthy of residency.

[Gruffalo]

I personally wouldn't describe any nation as "Scum" as it would be not only illogical and grossly offensive but racist as well, I'm aware you don't share my scruples however.
Anyway, I'm not sure what exactly you are referring to when you say it's "disgraceful the way the Brits treated the Gurkha people", there are no such people or race, "Gurkhas" is the name given (from "Gorkha", a town in Nepal) collectively to Nepalese hillmen recruited into first the Indian, (pre-1947) and later the British armies and I fail to see what element of their treatment was or is disgraceful.

A brief history lesson for you. Recruitment of Gurkhas started in 1815 and they were a prominent part of the old Indian Army until a decision had to be taken about their future in the wake of Indian Independence in 1947. Many in the UK simply assumed that they would remain as part of the new Indian Army after that, like the Sikhs, Rajputs, Dogras and Garwalhis for that matter. It appears though, that such were the bonds of affection and respect for them, that a campaign to transfer at least some of them to the British Army started amongst senior Army officers in Whitehall and a srong case ws made for their retention. They were unique amongst the Indian Army in this respect.
After a lot of politicking and bean-counting it was agreed that four regiments, the Second, Sixth, Seventh and Tenth Gurkha Rifles, along with yet-to-be-formed Signals, Transport and Engineer components would form a new British Brigade of Gurkhas based not in India but in Malaya, at Sungei Pattani if I remember correctly.
The thing to remember here, before emotion and the red mist of righteous anti-Brit. indignation takes over, is that there was never any question then (or before,) of soldiers in the new Brigade being entitled to live in the UK, these guys are Nepalese citizens remember, and Nepal has never been part of the Empire or even the Commonwealth. Indeed there was no expectation of or demand for such a right or entitlement, it simply wasn't an issue. Their terms of service were clear and transparent and every man was a volunteer.

In those days the vast majority of Gurkhas could expect to serve their full career without setting foot in the UK, there wasn't even a role for them in the UK or North West Europe. They were of course employed extensively alongside British and Commonwealth troops in the Malayan Emergency, Brunei Revolt and Indonesion Confrontation where the most recent Gurkha VC was won in 1965 By L/Cpl. (later Major) Rambahadur Limbu of 10GR.
In the late sixties the Brigade left Malaya and set up in a new home in Hong Kong which would henceforth be their HQ and Training Depot. There was obviously some uncertainty as to what would become of them once HK was handed back to the Chinese in 1997. By this time of course it was usual for one battalion to be based in the UK at Church Crookham in Hampshire and another in Brunei. Like the rest of the Infantry, they suffered reductions in size until the remaining battalions were finally amalgamated into a new Gurkha regiment, The Royal Gurkha Rifles with a battalion in the UK and one in Brunei (paid for by the Sultan incidentally!). Once again, at this time there was no demand for or thoughts of, giving retired Gurkhas, most of whom had never set foot in the UK, a right to settle here. It was only after the hand-over of HK that all Gurkha recruits would for the first time since 1815 be trained in the UK and since then demands started, primarly from ex-Gurkha officers, to be allowed to settle in the UK. These demands have become increasingly vociferous in the past few years and public support has swung behind it, helped by the redoubtable Miss Lumley. So to get from there to here with the Govt losing a vote in the commons on it, in about 12 years, is not bad going and hardly evidence of "disgraceful" treatment by the British nation.

Blah, Blah, Blah apologist twaddle.

And here is an example of a country behaving a little more appropriately toward those who risked their lives for them:

Canada to open door to Afghans who helped our diplomats, military

It seems countries have higher standards when the Brits leave.

[Gruffalo]

tyhe ghurkas have widespread public support, from ordianry people right through to senior establishment figures in the militrary, the tory party and the labour party

Of course they do? That is why it has taken so long, and lest we forget, they still do not actually have the right.

[Mr Crowley]

just to make it clear they still arent entited to residency . The vote is non binding upon the British governemnt .

Fair play for pointing thay out.

British democracy

That is the real great British anachronism right there.

personally ive feck all sympathy for them . Its not like they only found out these were the rules of the massas they were fighting for for centuries . There were more laws passed on animal welfare than Gurkha welfare over the decades and centuries but still they all took the queens shilling anyway .

Fully agree, the thread was only ever about pointing out the folly in selling life or limb to the British crown.

I dont believe there should be any reward for utter stupidity in this world . As far as Im aware the Nepalese governemnt these days is banning British army recruitment anyway as a colonial hangover . Pity this country wasnt taking the same progressive attitude .

Yeah but the Nepalese are a proud people known for their resolve and strength; not like the type vermin that traditionally slither and scurry through the gates of Leinster house.

[Jason]

its not binding . The British cabinet isnt required to pay any heed to it .

They dont have to... but they will. Has there ever been a case where something like this has been voted for in the commons and not passed in the cabinet?

[dalywise]

If ever faced in battle by a Gurkha run as fast as you possibly can. They are not without humour though. During the Battle of Monte Cassino some gurkhas came acoss a ditch where 3 German soldiers were in a deep sleep, totally exhausted from the battle. The gurkhas quietly killed the two outside sleepers and let the guy in the middle sleep on. They then cut the heads off the two dead soldiers. They had a great laugh back in camp imagining the reaction of the third soldier when he woke up to see his mates without their heads.

[merle haggard]

If ever faced in battle by a Gurkha run as fast as you possibly can. .

personally i think it would be a better idea to take careful aim and then shoot him ..

[PaulMeyer]

Blah, Blah, Blah apologist twaddle.

And here is an example of a country behaving a little more appropriately toward those who risked their lives for them:

Canada to open door to Afghans who helped our diplomats, military

It seems countries have higher standards when the Brits leave.

Increasingly I find myself wondering if there is any point whatsoever in even attempting to discuss or debate anything with people like you.You're incapable of responding in a reasonable tone to points made. Instead you simply dismiss them as you have here, without offering any counterpoint or contrary view. Instead we have idiotic insult followed by utter irrelevancy. How exactly, do you manage to compare the fate of Afghan interpreters in a war-zone, with that of retired Nepalese pensioners living peacefully in their own homes? The situations are entirely different.
Your obvious anti-British racism has consumed you to the point that you're now nothing more than an ignorant bawling bore, with nothing of interest to say or contribute, one would have a more interesting exchange of views with a vat of pig-swill.

[Gruffalo]

Increasingly I find myself wondering if there is any point whatsoever in even attempting to discuss or debate anything with people like you.You're incapable of responding in a reasonable tone to points made. Instead you simply dismiss them as you have here, without offering any counterpoint or contrary view. Instead we have idiotic insult followed by utter irrelevancy. How exactly, do you manage to compare the fate of Afghan interpreters in a war-zone, with that of retired Nepalese pensioners living peacefully in their own homes? The situations are entirely different.
Your obvious anti-British racism has consumed you to the point that you're now nothing more than an ignorant bawling bore, with nothing of interest to say or contribute, one would have a more interesting exchange of views with a vat of pig-swill.

See you are telling more lies Meyer. I offered a counterpoint - how it should be done better and quicker e.g. the way Canada are doing it.

They are not different, they both risked their lives in support of foreign armies. They should both be treated properly, but one side is still not being treated that way. And that is because people like you think that they are an inferior class of person. You bigoted, racist, imperialist gob********************e.

You are clearly the racist Meyer as you are defending the Gurkha been treated in an inferior way to the British men they fought alongside.

Well you and a vat of pig swill would get a long very well i.e. you are both full of garbage.

[PaulMeyer]

See you are telling more lies Meyer. I offered a counterpoint - how it should be done better and quicker e.g. the way Canada are doing it.

They are not different, they both risked their lives in support of foreign armies. They should both be treated properly, but one side is still not being treated that way. And that is because people like you think that they are an inferior class of person. You bigoted, racist, imperialist gob********************e.

You are clearly the racist Meyer as you are defending the Gurkha been treated in an inferior way to the British men they fought alongside.

Well you and a vat of pig swill would get a long very well i.e. you are both full of garbage.

The ravings of a lunatic, I won't even bother replying.

[Gruffalo]

The ravings of a lunatic, I won't even bother replying.

You wont reply because you cannot. When you look in the mirror, even you you can see how pathetic you are.

Your comments have clearly deemed the Gurkha to be inferior, that makes you a racist.

You call me an anti-British racist. Yet "apparently" the majority of British agree with me that the Gurkha deserved these rights and should have had them a long time ago.

Therefore, if I am an anti-British racist, then so are the majority of British people. So, Are the majority of British people anti-British racists?