Page 2 of 21 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 204

Thread: What Ahmadinejad actually said!

  1. #11
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    11,654

    Quote Originally Posted by Skin View Post
    Ok, thats his view. Whats yours?

    Much the same.

  2. #12
    Politics.ie Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    4,750

    Here's another 'holy' book that's full of injunctions to kill:

    Murder in the Bible

  3. #13
    Politics.ie Regular Clanrickard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Last outpost of freedom
    Posts
    17,537

    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    Here's another 'holy' book that's full of injunctions to kill:

    Murder in the Bible
    So how many Christians have you heard of that go around killing as demanded in the bible? Take your time and think hard. Now how many Muslims have heard of that kill or demand the killing of people who infringe on the Quran or the Hadith?
    "The Egyptians could run to Egypt, the Syrians into Syria. The only place we could run was into the sea, and before we did that we might as well fight.” -Golda Meir

  4. #14
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    2,616

    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    Much the same.
    Right!...eh...so, what has all this got to do with Ahmadinejads message of love & peace?

  5. #15
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    11,654

    Quote Originally Posted by Skin View Post
    Right!...eh...so, what has all this got to do with Ahmadinejads message of love & peace?

    What he means is love and peace to muslims. As for infidels, particularly the people of Israel, well please see above.

  6. #16
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    20,224

    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    So how many Christians have you heard of that go around killing as demanded in the bible? Take your time and think hard. Now how many Muslims have heard of that kill or demand the killing of people who infringe on the Quran or the Hadith?
    Thousands counting Charlemagne, the Crusaders, the Spanish and Roman Inquisitions, the religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries, all based on biblical views and god's actions with respect to heathens.

  7. #17
    Politics.ie Regular Clanrickard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Last outpost of freedom
    Posts
    17,537

    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyLaymatina View Post
    The following is the speech of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the Durban Review Conference on racism in Geneva on April 20.
    Let's dissect that speech shall we.......

    1. Innocent people were taken captive in their millions and separated from their families and loved ones to be taken to Europe and America under the worst conditions.

    No mention of the fact that many many more taken to Islamic countries and indeed that slavery is sanctioned in the Quran.

    2. The victorious powers called themselves the conquerors of the world while ignoring or down treading upon rights of other nations by the imposition of oppressive laws and international arrangements.

    No they gave us the Geneva conventions, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and a strong body of international law which his regime has been to the fore in ignoring or transgressing.

    3. Following World War II, they resorted to military aggression to make an entire nation homeless under the pretext of Jewish suffering and they sent migrants from Europe, the United States and other parts of the world in order to establish a totally racist government in occupied Palestine.

    No they didn't. In fact the British tried to stop Jews from entering Palestine. The foundation of Israel had nothing to do with the security council as he suggests.

    4. defending those racist perpetrators of genocide Agree or disagree with Israel but by no stretch of anyone's imagination can their treatment of the Palestinian people be called genocide .

    5. also want to lay emphasis on the fact that Western liberalism and capitalism has reached its end since it has failed to perceive the truth of the world and humans as they ar Because Islamic countries have sooooo much more to offer.

    6. World Zionism personifies racism that falsely resorts to religions and abuses religious sentiments to hide its hatred and ugly face. However, it is of great importance to bring into focus the political goals of some of the world powers and those who control huge economic resources and interests in the world. They mobilize all the resources including their economic and political influence and world media to render support in vain to the Zionist regime and to maliciously diminish the indignity and disgrace of this regime.
    Speaking of the KKK they'd be embarrassed with this level of bigotry.


    No mention of the maltreatment of women, no mention of the maltreatment of the Bahai, no mention of hanging homos in Iran. No siree it's all the Jooooooos fault. Worse still people like you see nothing wrong.
    "The Egyptians could run to Egypt, the Syrians into Syria. The only place we could run was into the sea, and before we did that we might as well fight.” -Golda Meir

  8. #18
    Politics.ie Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    4,750

    Quote Originally Posted by Riadach View Post
    Thousands counting Charlemagne, the Crusaders, the Spanish and Roman Inquisitions, the religious wars of the 17th and 18th centuries, all based on biblical views and god's actions with respect to heathens.
    Let's not forget good ol' Dubya:

    George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

    And the South African 'Dutch Reformed Church' previous support for apartheid:

    http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encycloped...cep/drcsa.html

    Thought-provoking information on the true nature of Christian fundamentalism in the US:

    http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre1.html

    http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=psar.093.0301a
    Last edited by marmurr1916; 22nd April 2009 at 11:07 PM.

  9. #19
    Politics.ie Regular mmrebel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    In Araf
    Posts
    4,660

    I think il start my own religion , and the 1st commandment will go something like this death to to all fianna failers !

  10. #20
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    2,616

    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    What he means is love and peace to muslims. As for infidels, particularly the people of Israel, well please see above.
    Where does he say "love and peace to Muslims"? Or where does he mention "infidels" .

    Clearly he states "Firstly, it is absolutely possible to improve the existing situation in the world. However it must be noted that this could be only achieved through the cooperation of all countries in order to get the best out of the existing capacities and resources in the world. "

    and

    "it is necessary to focus on divine and humanitarian values by referring to the true definition of human beings based upon justice and respect for the rights of all people in all parts of the world and by acknowledging the past wrong doings in the past dominant management of the world, and to undertake collective measures to reform the existing structures."



    and

    "In order to make the world a better place full of love and blessings, a world devoid of poverty and hatred, merging the increasing blessings of God Almighty and the righteous managing of the perfect human being, let us all join hands in friendship in the fulfillment of such a new world."


    To dimiss this, and then go on a rant about some bloke who used to be a muslim, but isnt now, and then try to label it as what someone else was actually saying when clearly then mentioned no such stuff in their speech, is delusion.

Page 2 of 21 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Ahmadinejad Won. Get Over it.
    By cactusflower in forum Foreign Affairs
    Replies: 71
    Last Post: 19th October 2009, 06:05 PM
  2. Jewish Ahmadinejad
    By L'Chaim in forum Foreign Affairs
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 5th July 2009, 12:28 PM
  3. Ahmadinejad 'wins' again
    By darkhorse in forum Foreign Affairs
    Replies: 514
    Last Post: 26th June 2009, 07:55 PM
  4. Ahmadinejad visits the US.
    By }IknowurbutwhatamI{ in forum Foreign Affairs
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: 10th October 2007, 09:56 PM
  5. Ahmadinejad!
    By cob in forum Foreign Affairs
    Replies: 43
    Last Post: 26th September 2007, 02:30 PM